Talk:Vi veri universum vivus vici

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Source? Can anyone actually show where this phrase shows up in Marlowe's Faustus? I've gone through two different Marlowe concordances looking for this, and it doesn't show up in either. I checked both in English and in Latin, and as far as I can tell, Marlowe never used it. If anyone can give me the act and scene for where he used it, I would be very interested. However, I now believe that the attribution to Marlowe is an error. I hope I'm wrong, because Marlowe himself fits perfectly into the themes of V For Vendetta... 152.1.209.182 14:50, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

The article says the translation is "By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe". I don't read Latin, but I'm sure this is not a literal translation? The Dutch Wikipedia has it translated as "By the Power of Truth I have conquered the Universe", which sounds more plausible to me. Can someone with a Classical background give some insights into the literal translation? Jalwikip 10:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

It looks more or less right to me - "living" needs to be in there, becuase that's what "vivus" means. A literal translation would be, I think, "By force of truth I, living, conquered the universe"Vultur 15:00, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, it would be nice to have a gloss though... Jalwikip 14:27, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Goethe?

It is said above that the movie "V for Vendetta" wrongly credits the phrase by attributing it to Goethe's Faust when V only says "From Faust." He never mentions Goethe by name.

[By anonymous IP on main article page] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.167.74.70 (talk) 15:03, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Source

I searched for this phrase in a digital copy of Marlowe's Faust [1] abd a digital copy of Goethe's Faust [2] and didn't find the phrase. Any results from a google search result in references to V for Vendetta. 207.47.93.226 09:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC)