Talk:Veterans Day
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[edit] Move/merge
Hm. Hadn't thought of that possibility. What say we move it? -- Zoe
I don't know how to do it the easy way. Go ahead.(btw i did google search to make certain of the spelling, and the VFW spells it that way.) BF
Better to have one medium stub rather than two short stubs. This article should probably be amalgamated with Armistice Day. If so, under which title? "Armistice Day" is the original (I think) and is still used in Europe (?), "Veterans Day" is (I gather) current US usage (other places too?) and "Rememberance Day" is current Oz & NZ usage (maybe other places too). The important thing is that they all share the 11th November date and are different names for the same thing. Tannin
Not really the same thing. In the US, Armistice Day was specifically in memory of those who died in World War I, but after World War II, Veterans Day was instituted to honor those who died in all wars. -- Zoe
It's the same here in Oz, Zoe. Started as a WW1 thing, now broader. Though we have ANZAC Day as well, just to make it more complicated. Tannin
Keep Veterans Day and Armistice Day seperate. They are completely different holidays with completely different goals. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RawkStah (talk • contribs) November 22, 2005.
[edit] Poppy Day
Is Poppy Day associated with Veterans Day? I was looking it up for class today and i came across poppy day as a rememberance for war veterans but it seems to be a new zealand holiday, so is it associated with the USA veterans day?...
[edit] Off from work?
Do people in the USA get a day off on Veterans Day? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.217.163.153 (talk • contribs) 20:02, November 10, 2005.
Veterans day is one of the very few federal holidays that Americans do not usually have off. Sometimes private companies and federal institutes (like banks, schools, etc) will have the day off, but for the most part Americans report to work as though it were any other day. Its really disapointing TomStar81 01:14, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Vonnegut
“I will come to a time in my backwards trip when November eleventh, accidentally my birthday, was a sacred day called Armistice Day. When I was a boy, all the people of all the nations which had fought in the First World War were silent during the eleventh minute of the eleventh hour of Armistice Day, which was the eleventh day of the eleventh month. “It was during that minute in nineteen hundred and eighteen, that millions upon millions of human beings stopped butchering one and another. I have talked to old men who were on battlefields during that minute. They have told me in one way or another that the sudden silence was the voice of God. So we still have among us some men who can remember when God spoke clearly to mankind. “Armistice Day has become Veterans’ Day. Armistice Day was sacred. Veterans’ day is not. “So I will throw Veterans’ Day over my shoulder. Armistice Day I will keep. I don’t want to throw away any sacred things. “What else is sacred? Oh, Romeo and Juliet, for instance. “And all music is.”
—Breakfast of Champions by Kurt Vonnegut, 1973
I didn't want to just throw that into the article (it would swamp it), but I think that's a notable social commentary on Veteran's / Armistice day. I wonder if it has a place, or at least a mention. Any thoughts? gren グレン 06:43, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
- Maybe we can open up a page on Wikiquote and put this there. Wikiquote usually contains phraises such as these, and a link can be placed on this page to take people to the other one. TomStar81 23:05, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] "POV and Unrelated Websites"
I thought that actually suggesting some ways to celebrate Veterans Day might be nice.
Guess not.
They were all veterans day websites by the way. Operation Truth does have an agenda controversial to some, but disabled american vets? The VA's own volunteer site?
Here's what I wrote:
Suggested Activities for Veterans Day:
1. Pay attention to veterans issues. If your favorite news organization does not give them expanded coverage on Veteran's Day, let them know you are disappointed. Spend some time reading about current issues facing veterans and what you can do to honor their service and improve their lives.
2. Find out about local veterans organizations and donate your time or money.
3. Encourage your community and church organizations to contact a VA hospital in your area and arrange a visit.
- * http://www.dav.org/ - * http://www.operationtruth.com/ - * http://www1.va.gov/volunteer/
I don't know what the purpose of the holiday is if it is not to honor veterans in some way. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jenyum (talk • contribs) November 11, 2005.
[edit] Moved from 'Veteran's Day' observed
'Veteran's Day' observed is a holiday in which is part of Veteran's Day.It looks a lot like regular Veteran's Day,but the only thing is that it is celebrated on a different day.The holiday is still celebrated in November before Thanksgiving Day,and it is only celebrated if November 11 falls on a weekend.The date for Veteran's Day is always November 11,even if it is on a weekend.However,'Veteran's Day' observed is a holiday that is part of Veteran's Day but is celebrated the previous or following weekday if November 11 falls on a weekend.If Veteran's Day falls on Saturday,then 'Veteran's Day' observed falls and is celebrated on November 10,which is the previous Friday.If Veteran's Day falls on Sunday,then 'Veteran's Day' observed falls and is celebrated on November 12,which is the following Monday.Both are called 'Veteran's Day' observed so that people could enjoy a three-day weekend if Veteran's Day falls on a weekend.It is really celebrated like Veteran's Day.
Attributation: 2006-03-08 01:39:42 Jose and Ricardo ('Veteran's Day' observed)
Actually, most businesses, schools, and government agencies, and all banks and the bond market do not close on Nov. 10 if Nov. 11 falls on a Saturday. They do sometimes close on Nov. 12 if Veterans Day falls on a Sunday. I agree that it is wrong and unfair, but that's the way it is. So, I do not think that Nov. 10 is ever "Veterans Day Observed". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.184.64.197 (talk • contribs) September 27, 2006.
I think another reason why many companies do not observe Veterans Day (rather than its proximity to Thanksgiving Day) is because in most years, it does not give a 3 day weekend, unlike most other holidays. And, since it is not near the summmer, it tends not to be a major travel holiday. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.184.64.197 (talk • contribs) September 27, 2006.
[edit] Two Things
1) Most public schools at the primary (Elementary) and Secondary (High School) levels in the US get the day off. As a result of dependance upon public schools for bussing and the like many private schools also are not in session.
2) It is not a day to remember the dead in the US. Memorial Day in May, is the day to remember those members of the Armed Forces who died. Veterans Day is the day to remember those who are still around. [LawF] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 168.141.203.13 (talk • contribs) 16:11, August 25, 2006.
[edit] Please expand
It's just a little more than a stub. Someone needs to add more, because I don't know much about this subject. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.38.110.24 (talk • contribs) 20:21, November 8, 2006.
[edit] Veterans Day, Veteran's Day or Veterans' Day?
Which is it officially? There is a surprisingly small amount of material here on this subject. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.100.126.205 (talk • contribs) 14:56, November 9, 2006.
It is veterans day, not veterans' day, or veteran's day. I know this because i looked it up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.207.227.20 (talk • contribs) 16:44, November 9, 2006.
- The correct spelling is Veterans Day. Source: http://www1.va.gov/opa/vetsday/vetday_faq.asp Noah 16:37, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Needs sources too...
If someone adds more info to this page, they need to show their sources. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 168.169.232.153 (talk • contribs) 19:07, November 9, 2006.
[edit] Inconsistency
In the first paragraph, it says "a state holiday in all states"; however, in the sidebar it says "Type: Federal (and most U.S. states)". I would change it, but I don't know which is correct. Bizzako 20:51, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Celebrated" or Commemorated?
"It is celebrated on..." - surely this is "commemorated" or "observed"? or is Veterans Day noted as a joyous occasion? In the UK Remembrance Day is observed with solemnity, respect and sadness, not joy. (Or is this something to do with the USA having a separate "Memorial Day"?) --mgaved 18:10, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Why was it the 4th Monday in October?
From 1971-77, when Veterans Day was moved to a Monday, why was it the 4th Monday of October, rather than the 2nd Monday in November? I'm not aware of any anniversaries involving war that are in late October. And the 4th Monday of October is only 2 weeks after Columbus Day.
[edit] Which time zone?
The eleventh hour; but in which time zone? I am guessing UTC+1, or the 1918 equivalent, since the majority of the war's events took place on the European mainland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.115.251.13 (talk) 17:16, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Grammar error in post about Veterans Day
All, there is an insure/ensure error on the page. It reads "insure" when the author meant "ensure."
[edit] PHOTOGRAPH CAPTION ERROR
68.175.97.56 15:18, 11 November 2007 (UTC) The photograph of the 86 year old gentleman - he could not be a World War ONE veteran, he is a World War TWO veteran.
Well, you actually can't be sure what year that was taken. Also large amount of people lied about their age to enter service. (71.192.34.220 17:17, 11 November 2007 (UTC))
Why not? The image caption says '86 year old in 1982'... A lot of people lied? Sure, but by a year or two.. ie: 16 year olds wanting to get into the military... - Ateo 17:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
86 in 1982-- born 1896, 18 in 1914 19:21, 11 November 2007 (UTC)JD
sweet dude —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.70.158.157 (talk) 20:16, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
It seems that the article is wrong in saying that the holiday is always on Monday of the week of November 11th. I found this in a government web site (http://www1.va.gov/opa/vetsday/vetday_faq.asp):
Veterans Day is always observed officially on November 11, regardless of the day of the week on which it falls. The Veterans Day National Ceremony, like most ceremonies around the nation, is held on Veterans Day itself. However, when Veterans Day falls on a weekday, many communities choose to hold Veterans Day parades or other celebrations on the weekend before or after November 11 so that more people can participate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.167.95.138 (talk) 18:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
