Talk:Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity

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[edit] White House misused Iraq intelligence: ex-official

PAUL R. PILLAR


Paul R. Pillar was appointed National Intelligence Officer for the Near East and South Asia in October 2000 upon returning to the Intelligence Community from the Brookings Institution, where he was a Federal Executive Fellow.

He joined the Central Intelligence Agency in 1977 and has served in a variety of analytical and managerial positions, including as chief of analytic units covering portions of the Near East, the Persian Gulf, and South Asia. He previously served in the National Intelligence Center (NIC) as one of the original members of its Analytic Group.

He has been Executive Assistant to CIA's Deputy Director for Intelligence and Executive Assistant to DCI William Webster. He headed the Assessments and Information Group of the DCI Counterterrorist Center and from 1997 to 1999 was deputy chief of the center.

Pillar is a retired officer in the U.S. Army Reserve and served on active duty in 1971-1973, including a tour of duty in Vietnam.

Pillar received an A.B. summa cum laude from Dartmouth College, a B.Phil. from Oxford University, and an M.A. and Ph.D. from Princeton University. He is the author of books on peace negotiations and counterterrorist policy. His most recent work, Terrorism and U.S. Foreign Policy, was published by the Brookings Institution Press in February 2001

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060210/pl_nm/iraq_usa_intelligence_dc

[edit] Robert Grenier

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2036182,00.html

[edit] Copyright violation

Possible copyright violation process does not seem to have been followed, as aricle is not listed at Wikipedia:Copyright_problems as the message says it should be. Also the sections

  • February 2003 Memo
  • Former members
  • See also
  • External links

are not from the web page in question, and therefore should not be included in a possible copyright violation discussion. Finally, the web page in question allows the text to be used under GFDL. Simon12 19:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Correspondence/memos

I removed the sections on correspondence and memos. They fall under WP:NOT (collection of external links), and are arguably a WP:NPOV violation. The information is easily available on the link in the external web site section.Simon12 14:30, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article up for AfD

David MacMichael one of the Veterans is up for deletion. 68.91.252.148 18:33, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Please do not remove the above from the talk page. It is a legitimate notice that has relevance to anyone involved in editing this article. And in general it is inappropriate to remove material from the talk page, even if you disagree with it. It is in poor form to delete comments made by others just because you don't agree with them or whatever. csloat 08:50, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Per WP:TALK: "The purpose of a Wikipedia talk page is to provide space for editors to discuss changes to its associated article or project page." Explain to me how this is discussing a change to the VIPS article. Pablo Talk | Contributions 15:43, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
If the MacMichael page is deleted (or the Ray McGovern page), we will have to change this page to accommodate those deletions. Besides, that page you cite does not say it is ok to remove things you feel are not relevant if someone else feels they are relevant. Please don't do it again; thanks. csloat 17:39, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
One of the reasons I removed the comment is that this anon had been doing a ton of canvassing. Although I doubt that the deletion of MacMichael (which won't happen because I just withdrew the nomination) would have changed this page that much, I'm not going to keep removing the message. Pablo Talk | Contributions 23:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC)