Talk:Vesper (cocktail)

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[edit] 007's "signature drink"

The article says,

The correct way of preparing this type of cocktail is to stir it so that it remains clear. Later on, Bond wants it "shaken, not stirred". It has become 007's signature drink.

Actually, Bond's signature drink is not the Vesper, but a simple "vodka martini, shaken, not stirred". I don't know whether he drinks a Vesper in later books (or other movies), but the Vesper--which is mostly gin--could certainly not be called a "vodka martini".

So if'n it's okay, I'm rephrasing that paragraph... -- Narsil 20:53, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Drinkware

what's the reference for a goblet being the proper glassware? —Preceding unsigned comment added by HunterAmor (talkcontribs) 19:50, January 25, 2007


According to an MSN Life article, James Bond ordered: "A dry martini," he said. "One. In a deep champagne goblet."

The article further describes how modern times have altered the ingredients, thus making a Vesper of today a very different drink from 1953. It also provides suggestions for how to create a version more like the original using modern alternate ingredients. It also says that a modern cocktail glass is an acceptable substitute for the goblet, as cocktail (martini) glasses are larger today than they were in 1953. The same article also appears in Esquire.

A Google search returns mixed results. Here is a random sampling:

Goblet
Cocktail Glass

Since this is an encyclopedia article, probably the original style of glass should be listed, but I will add a footnote that a cocktail glass is often substituted. In fact, I just rewrote a large part of the article and included the entire quote I used above. I was also surprised to see that the picture I had found for the article was missing, so I added it in. --Willscrlt (Talk·Cntrb) 06:56, 27 January 2007 (UTC)


thanks for the great answer to my question. we need a better picture - maybe i'll take one myself in the next couple of days. the picture can't have an olive in it! HunterAmor 04:02, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

An entire teaspoon of quinine powder is a HUGE amount. An entire bottle of tonic water contains only a few milligrams of it. 69.207.177.222 23:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

    • I assume each "measure" of this drink is a standard 25ml? That seems like an awful lot. Monkeyspearfish 14:39, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problems

The problem with this article is that so much of it is a rewriting of the article in the references - the bond quote giving the original recipe and almost all the stuff about recreating it today. 82.3.73.196 (talk) 18:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


In the 2006 film, James does in fact make up and order the drink at the poker table after the hand in which he notices Le Chiffre's "tell." Several others at the table order it, including Felix Leiter who says "hold the fruit." I'll add this to the article. 69.113.224.73 (talk) 04:07, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Casino Royale Variation

What about the modern film variation