User talk:Verica Atrebatum

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[edit] Mug House

Hi. In principle I have no problem with the article being renamed The Mug House, Claines. However, until such time as articles are created for the other two venues you mention I would like to maintain a re-direct page from mug house to the new page. --Newton2 18:18, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Montacute/Montagu Earls of Salisbury

Here's what I think happened with these two families. William de Montacute (2nd Earl 1329-1397) married Joan, the Fair Maid of Kent, in about 1340. However, she was already married to Thomas Holland, 1st Earl of Kent, so the marriage was annulled - there were no children. William already had a child - also called William - by an earlier marriage, but he died in 1383, so when the 2nd Earl died in 1397 the title passed to a cadet line. This was John, Alice's grandfather, and as far I can see they are always referred to as Montagu. Alice's descent from Joan of Kent was through her mother's Holland forebears, not the Montacute marriage. Also - for what it's worth - all the books I've read refer to the family as Montague at this period, so using this spelling makes it easier for anyone to work out who was who. Thanks for the Bisham addition - I wondered what property she brought with her.

Thewiltog 18:10, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Windsor Castle - no repeat material, but transferred

Dear Verica, Hi - I have reverted your recent Windsor Castle edit because Big Royal Dig, which I created is now a CAT:CSD at my urgent request. I have moved the relevant material to the appropriate articles and now I have blanked Big Royal Dig. It's a long story, but if you look at Talk:Time Team, where there was a wounding Merge proposal to my sparkling new article, you'll see why. I've had 2 days of utter grief with this. If you are an administrator, please effect the deletion. I am a keen contributor and utterly desperate at the position I've been put in. (By the way, have you read Sarah Gristwood's brilliant biog. of Arbella Stuart? it's great.)Thanks. -- FClef (talk) 07:51, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Dear Verica, Hello again. I'm happy to tell you that Big Royal Dig has now been deleted. Please leave the material on the Windsor page. I'm a happier bunny now.  :o) -- FClef (talk) 08:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I only deleted the paragaraph that was repeated twice in the Windsor Castle article. I didn't delete the Big Royal Dig section completely. I have now done this again. Verica Atrebatum 10:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Oops! My fault - apologies. I was so traumatised by the events of the last 2 days, and transferring material in haste when bleary-eyed this a.m., that I didn't notice that boob of mine. Thanks. –– FClef (talk) 12:20, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bracknell ski slope photo

The photo I uploaded of the dry ski slope in Bracknell is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike licence - that means, I think, that I should give the photographer (a chap called Andrew Smith) credit for his work. I did that in the photo caption, but you removed it.

Do you have an objection to giving credit to the photographer with Attribution-ShareAlike images? If so, please explain. Otherwise, maybe you'd like to put it back.

BTW I have no idea who Andrew Smith is (certainly not me - I habitually upload my own photos and renounce all copyright :) but I just wanted to be fair to him, as he has uploaded some really nice photos to the geograph website and I wouldn't want to abuse his choice of licence.

Cheers - Euchiasmus 12:32, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

As the photo in question had the credit on its own page, I didn't see that it was necessary to repeat this information under the Bracknell article. However, I have put it back as requested. Verica Atrebatum 16:40, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unton

Thanks for tidying Henry Unton; it really needed it - I threw the image in when I uploaded it for 1550-1600 in fashion but didn't do anything else. - PKM 16:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help fight systematic bias

Dear Verica,

I would like to draw your attention to the discussion currently ongoing at Talk:Popsicle. If you are interested in helping to counter systematic bias towards North America, and instead establish Wikipedia as an international website, then please feel welcome to contribute with your opinions. Thank you. EuroSong talk 13:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Berks categories

I see you've been tidying the categories on some of the SSSI articles I did from Berks to West Berks. Would you be kind enough to look at Locks on the Kennet and Avon Canal & check those for me as well. — Rod talk 20:05, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

No problem, Rod. I'll take a look when I get some time. BTW, I think Hampstead Lock should be Hamstead Lock. It's at Hamstead Marshall - no 'p' in the middle. Verica Atrebatum 20:35, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks (I don't know the geograpjhy of Berkshire very well & these are based on the Kennet and Avon Canal & realted bits I've been doing) & thank you for spotting my typo - I've checked back in my books & you are right so I've changed to Hamstead Lock.— Rod talk 21:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Topic naming with spaces

Why did you move the topic on St. Nicolas' Church to have spaces, i.e. St Nicolas' Church, Abingdon? Now the URL likes rather ugly, like

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Nicolas%27_Church%2C_Abingdon

When I do copy link location from a page linking to the topic, I see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Nicolas%27_Church%2C_Abingdon

Surely it is not good practice to use spaces in links as they are interpreted differently by different sysems -- in the case above they are apparently substituted with %27_.

What's the rationale here? Are the Wikipedia guidelines on topic naming? I find it rather confusing that the topic name is not what is displayed in the URL field of the browser. How does one know how to link to the topic? Cornellier 12:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I moved the article to one with a format matching most other church articles. The standard format is St Name's Church, Place. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (places) for more information.
In the URL the spaces become underscores, the apostrophe is the %27 and the comma is the %2C. This is standard Wikipedia usage and should be understood by all browsers. Verica Atrebatum 15:54, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wallingford

Thanks for tidying!

My pleasure. Verica Atrebatum 18:11, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wokingham town council

ok, let's do a comparison here

Their version:

Wokingham Town Council is made up of twenty-five councillors representing the four wards of the town; Emmbrook, Evendons, Norreys and Wescott. The Town Councillors are elected every four years and each year all twenty-five Councillors elect one Town Councillor to be the Town's Mayor and Chairman of Council.

The old version I removed:

The Town Council consists of twenty-five councillors who represent the four wards of the town: Emmbrook, Evendons, Norreys and Wescott. The councillors are elected every four years and every year they elect one of their number as Mayor.

So, what does that come to when we compare (i've strook out and italicised deletions and insertions)

Wokingham Town Council is made upconsists of twenty-five councillors who representing the four wards of the town; Emmbrook, Evendons, Norreys and Wescott. The Town Councillors are elected every four years and eacheach year all twenty-five Councillorsthey elect one Town Councillorof their number to be the Town's Mayor and Chairman of Council.

See, this is a clear textual similarity, one or two words have been changed, this is all. This needs rephrasing not reverting. Now, I rewrote this in my own words, without reference to the other text. If this is itself too similar, we need to come up with even more different wording, rather than use text which is blatantly textually derived from the website. Morwen - Talk 16:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see now, that you did in fact alter the phrasing, whilst claiming in your edit comment that there was nothing wrong with the text as it stood. Sorry, the wording at present can stand. Morwen - Talk 16:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Church of England parish church move

Hi. I'm bemused.

I can see why having made the first change (to 'hurch') the second change (to 'church') was needed. But what was the point of the whole exercise? We seem to be back where we started.

I'm new round here, so I can see that there might well be a point. I just don't know what it is. All I can see at the moment is that the route to the page is now rather more complex.

Thanks for any advice. GRBlundell 11-11-2006

Dear GRBlundell,
Check out the Wikipedia naming conventions policy, which explains the change of capitalization. I'm afraid I forgot to fix the double redirect which has probably added to your confusion. This is now done. Good split from Parish church BTW. Verica Atrebatum 10:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

- Light dawns! Many thanks. GRBlundell

[edit] People cats

Since the introduction of the settlement sub-categories the people from/natives of categories in general are a bit of a mess with inconsistency in how they are categorised. Where boundaries have changed, some have both the old and new county, some have the old, and some have the new. If the articles about people all get recategorised by settlement rather than by county it will become at least a little clearer. MRSC • Talk 11:53, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes. There is discussion about completely replacing "People from..." with "Natives of..." here. I'm definitely interested in your views on reducing the settlement categories down to major towns. MRSC • Talk 07:55, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sid Vale

I dont need your input to my article thank you so kindly stop ruining it (unsigned comment by Tad102 added 04:32, 23 November 2006)

This Tad102 guy obviously doesn't understand Wikipedia. If he did, he would realise how ridiculous the phrase "my article" sounds! 86.139.72.14 06:56, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
You've said it all. Verica Atrebatum 08:29, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I say 'my article' as i created it i know its not my property but im just asking for a bit of curtiousy. If you want to add info to the article thats what wikipedias all about not re-writing it and making it look worse than you obviously thought it was. and who the hell is this 86.139.72.14? hes not even a registered member!

[edit] Three Mile Cross (band)

A tag has been placed on Three Mile Cross (band), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable (see the guidelines for notability here). If you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself.

Please read the criteria for speedy deletion (specifically, articles #7) and our general biography criteria. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. - Tiswas(t/c) 13:26, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I have no interest in this article. I just moved the information off the Three Mile Cross village article. Sorry if I should have just deleted it. Verica Atrebatum 13:45, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi - if this article was previously part of the article Three Mile Cross, it makes sense to have moved it. I marked it for speedy delete as the original author has made no claims of notability for the band. - Tiswas(t/c) 14:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oxfordshire sub-cats

I've just realised the category scheme you have been using for Oxfordshire is towns instead of local government districts. We have been using districts elsewhere as they create larger, more viable geographic divisions as categories. Would you be interested in a move to district-based sub categories? MRSC • Talk 07:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Are we still talking about 'People from...' categories? The only one I've created is 'People from Abingdon, Oxfordshire'. I think I based this on the Berkshire ones, 'People of Reading, Berkshire', 'People of Windsor, Berkshire', etc. Local government districts sounds sensible to me. That would ensure the whole country was covered. I can fix them if you like and put in a redirect. However, might these not be moving to 'Natives of...' anyway? Verica Atrebatum 08:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Sorry crossed-wires. I meant the general categories such as Category:Abingdon, Oxfordshire should be replaced with Category:Vale of White Horse etc. The same applies for Berkshire which appears to currently be a mix of local government districts and towns. As for the Natives of.../People from... I would not suggest re-aligning to local government districts as the historical application of current units would be problematic. However, I have been grouping the lowest level People from... categories by district using categories such as Category:People from Vale of White Horse by settlement to fit in with a category scheme where the districts are the geographic divisions. MRSC • Talk 10:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Sounds fine to me. Verica Atrebatum 10:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for all the categorizing help re castles, hillforts etc

Next stop Ireland! :-) Neddyseagoon - talk 13:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clearing up the villages in Oxfordshire

Okay so i'm a little rusty to this, so not sure who this discussion is going out to.

I've started to clear up the village pages in Oxfordshire(i'll start on Oxford and the towns eventually).

I've been sorting them all out, finding out information about transport links(buses trains), a bit about the location, anything recent, the amenities(schools, pubs, shops etc). also been visiting these villages to find out a bit of information from the locals.

can i get any advice on whether im going about it the rigth way?? for examples of my work...ummm....look at the new Coscote , Fulscotand West Hagbournepages. Any help with this cleanup project and renovation would be most apprecaited. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Halowithhorns89 (talk • contribs) 16:18, 10 February 2007 (UTC).

Hi Halowithhorns89. Looks good to me. I would recommend:
  • Always make sure you add appropriate categories at the bottom
  • Always add the appropriate stub tag if it's a short article
  • For the recent developments, always mention the date if things may change
  • For Transport, you could mention the major routeways or railway station if there is one

In the intro:

  • Always mention the place is in England
  • Always mention if the place has moved county
  • Always mention which civil parish it's in, or if the place itself is a civil parish as well as a village

Hope this helps. Not sure Fulscot deserves an artcile of its own, but other than that...Keep up the good work!
Verica Atrebatum 20:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Verica Atrebatum....[play on the Atrebates tribe im guessing] I'm quite new to the Wikipedia site, i've been trying to do all this for ages on paper, but now i've found this, its like a godsend lol.

  • How do i add categories? and where would i find relevant ones?
  • what is a stub tag?
  • for major routeways, would say the A417 count as one?[blewbury]
  • i've noticed that railway stations have their own separaye article like didcot parkway and appleford...but what about places like Upton&Blewbury,Steventon. those stations were closed in the 60s, but i still think it'd be worth creating articles(ive not found any myslef).
  • i was unsure about fulscot myself, but it is a settlement, and has fulscot manor with it too.
  • is it bad manners to go to say the local village pub and ask them for anything interesting information?

thanks for your help --Halowithhorns89 17:24, 12 February 2007 (UTC) Postscript....how do i start an entry in another language? for example, if i wanted to create a spanish entry for didcot. how would i go about? and please use reletively simple terminology ;) --Halowithhorns89 17:34, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category Sorting

There are actually two ways to sort articles within categories. The "older" way is to add the name to each category. Recently, they added the {{DEFAULTSORT}} mechanism. Therefore, if you see an article with that template, you don't need to add the name to each category as you did here. If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks. -- JLaTondre 13:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Very useful. Thank you. Verica Atrebatum 14:58, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Holy wells

Good work on the Holy wells cat! I was unsure what to do with that article that in effect duplicated Clootie well; redirecting to a cat makes so much more sense. Thanks for thinking of it and doing the work to implement it. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 21:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Apprentice UK

Image:Fired!.png Hello, Verica Atrebatum and thank you for your contributions on articles related to The Apprentice UK. I'd like to invite you to become a part of WikiProject The Apprentice UK, a WikiProject aiming to improve coverage of The Apprentice UK and related articles on Wikipedia.

If you would like to help out and participate, please come over and visit us here for more information. Thanks! Dalejenkins 17:32, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Hugh de Grandmesnil

Thanks for change to Hugh de Grandmesnil - I am (It is) very short of refs for that article. Could you suggest one for your addition? Victuallers 08:06, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I only added a category Verica Atrebatum 07:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Amen Corner

I have changed your reference to the band being named after a location in Berkshire, to what I believe is correct (from other sources), that the band was named after the 1954 James Baldwin play The Amen Corner. If you have any clear evidence that the band was named after the Berkshire location, please provide it. Ghmyrtle 14:36, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

That's what I'd always been told, but I don't have a reference. I believe one of the members owns the music shop at Amen Corner. Presumably he bought it because of the name, rather than the band actually being named after the place. Verica Atrebatum 07:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Was the location called Amen Corner before he bought the shop there ? If not, perhaps the location is named after the shop rather than vice versa ? Ghmyrtle 14:51, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, the name is at least a couple of hundred years old. Verica Atrebatum 19:04, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robert fitz Martin

Hello Verica. Would you be able to revise your edit on Robert fitz Martin? You changed his name to FitzMartin, which is the surname his descendants used. Robert himself was only fitz Martin, indicating the name of his father, and had no surname himself. What appears to be his surname is just a descriptive term; only after his time did it become a surname. Sincerely, Fergananim

I'm afraid I can't move the history back, so if you don't agree with the move, you'll have to flag it for discussion. Verica Atrebatum 07:49, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please Help

Hi, Please let me know if you have any knowledge about any non-fiction about Islam or any other religion etc by T.P. Hughes. Thanks Jon Ascton

[edit] Chilton Foliat Meadows SSSI

Hi - I wondered if you give me a little more background for your edit to this page - the citation sheet says that this site falls partly within Berkshire. Thanks SP-KP 05:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

According to the map on the Nature on the Map site, it is wholly on the Wiltshire site of the border. I don't know which is correct. Verica Atrebatum 07:41, 25 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Grazeley

Hi Verica

I just wanted to thank you for the recent tidying of the Grazeley article. It took me quite a while to gather my research and producing an article that made sense of my pile of notes was a task in itself!

Thanks again! --LibraryCJH 17:49, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moving Church of the Holy Ghost, Midsomer Norton to Holy Ghost Church, Midsomer Norton

I am unsure about your justification for the above move. Wikipedia:Naming conventions seems to imply (to me) that we should use the most common / recognisable name, and it is my experience that those people who do not call this church just the "Catholic Church" refer to it as "Church of the Holy Ghost". I've never heard it or read it referred to as "Holy Ghost Church". Although the google test is hardly perfect, if you compare google searches for "Church of the Holy Ghost" "Midsomer Norton" there are a decent handful of hits (including links from Bath and North East Somerset local authority website and from the Royal Institute of British Architects), but searching for "Holy Ghost Church" "Midsomer Norton" gets you only two. Could I please move it back? Robotforaday 10:43, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Church of St X v St X church

Hi, I noticed you'd moved a lot of the articles on my watch list from being Church of St X to St X's church. Is there a particular naming convention which covers this as I've seen various forms used? If there is a particular guideline we should be following you might want to look at Churches in Bristol as it contains churches named under both formats?— Rod talk 16:33, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Berkshire WikiProject invitation

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