Template talk:Verylong

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Templates for deletion This template was considered for deletion on 2006 December 19. The result of the discussion was to keep.

RyanGerbil10(Упражнение В!) 08:12, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Verylarge versus Verylong

{{verylarge}} is for categories; {{verylong}} is for articles. -- Reinyday, 01:49, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

I've reformated this to the talk page format, and moved all instances of it to the talk page. It quite clearly is a template directed at editors rather than readers, and such templates generally belong on the talk pages. - SimonP 00:13, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree with SimonP --Philip Baird Shearer 19:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I disagree; there are many templates directed at editors which belong to the article (like all the cleanup templates; I'd say this is also one of the cleanup templates). However, if it is to be put in talk pages, shouldn't it be changed to the talk page templates color scheme, instead of the cleanup templates color scheme? --cesarb 19:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I changed the location recommendation at Wikipedia:Template messages/Maintenance to say "article page" instead of "talk page", for conformity.
If this template is to remain as used in the talk page then the formatting does need changing. The box is wider than the standard box size of other templates and it sticks out like a sore thumb. Munta 13:07, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trimming

I've added a bit about just trimming an article - quite often, the article just gets crap in it, and it doesn't need transfered into a subarticle. I have a few juicy examples, if anyone is interested. I hope the change is OK. -Patstuart(talk)(contribs) 04:45, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wording may need work

The current wording is:
"This article is becoming very long. Please consider summarizing or transferring content to subtopic articles."

The phrase "very long" sounds a bit too much like a statement about the importance of the topic. There are some very long articles out there, granted, but it just struck me as something of a fight-starter if misused. (The first thing that comes to mind is a bored student complaining, "It's too long!")
Take an article about Hitler: it is technically longer than one on Libertarianism, but is not listed as Very Long due to its large array of subtopic articles. One could take that to mean that Hitler was more important than Libertarianism, when this template relates more to style editing if I'm correct.
Why not change it to something like, "This article is becoming very long, etc..., This is not a statement on the importance of this article"? It would prevent petty disputes and thus help things get done faster. Kennard2 06:58, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk page link and wording

Part of the wording is "Please [[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|discuss]] this issue on the and help" (nowiki tags and italics added). The italicized part doesn't make any sense, and I think it would be better to change the wording of that part to "Please discuss this issue on this article's [[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|talk page]] and help", which sounds better (to me, at least) and fixes the nonsense part. Would that work? --Burgercat 18:52, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Verylong vs Toolong

{{Verylong}} has a name that could be confused with {{Toolong}}. Perhaps one of them should be rename? / Fred-J 15:34, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Looks like it has been. I have added it to see also so that people can find it now that they are redirected here. Richard001 (talk) 04:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sections

What about sections that are toolong? We have one for leads ({{Intro-tooshort}}) and this for whole articles, but what can I use for a section that is too long? Perhaps this should be modified to allow it to be used for sections too (e.g. |section changes it to a section specific message). Richard001 (talk) 04:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Good idea, but the message for a section has almost nothing in common with a message for an article. The latter suggests to split in WP:Summary style, which is obviously not recommended for a single section. Having KISS principle in mind, I've created {{very long section}} template (alternative names {{verylong section}}, {{verylongsection}} should work as well). --Kubanczyk (talk) 11:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC)