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[edit] Its a question - Venus williams books?

Do these need adding on her page shes written three books with sister serena

  • How to play tennis
  • Serving from the hip
  • Serving from the hip:10 rules for living,loving and winning

i think they should be added either into a bibliography or just added to the entrepeneur section.

[edit] Small mistake, I think

In the beggining of the of first section "Early Carrer" it is written: Already well-known at age 165, Williams turned... . I cant say if it is vandalism or not, but she doesnt have 165 years old yet and I dont know when she got famous so I think someone should correct this data.192.168.11.2 20:24, 9 July 2007

[edit] Tier I Tournaments

On the table of tournament wins, Hamburg and San Diego are listed as Tier II tournaments. However, they are listed as tier I tournaments on the WTA website. Are there any objections to changing it? I'll wait a while before editing it to make sure. Agrippina Minor

Hamburg is a defunct tournament, and it was never at Tier I tournament. It is currently played as an ATP Masters Series tournament (the ATP's version of Tier I). San Diego was once a Tier II tournament, but it has been upgraded as a Tier I in 2004. Joey80 10:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jehovah's Witness?

I would like to ask if it is right to put her and her sister in the category Jehovah's Witnesses people. Are they practicing JW? If not, they actually do not belong there. Summer Song 08:41, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

From my reading both her, her sister, her mother (but _not_ her father) are Witnesses. http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/williamsdivorce.htm <-2000. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/80777/1318124/post.ashx#1318124 <-2006 they still seem to be attending 220.253.86.204 07:31, 8 March 2006 (UTC) (MSN jpshift@hotmail.com)

I love the "despite suffering stomach cramps" bit. As if women throughout history haven't been fighting through their jobs for centuries despite PMS issues. I'd love to see a professional female athlete try to get away with THAT one. Imagine Lisa Leslie saying "Coach, I can't make it through this game, I'm bloated and agitated!"

"they sometimes had to dodge bullets while practising tennis at local public courts"

Emm, care to explain why? Mandel 08:02, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)

  • They had to dodge bullets on the practice courts as they were brought up in Compton, California. It's a well known area for gangs having gun battles and Venus and Serena Williams have often mentioned the fact that as they practiced as kids, gunfire was going on in the area. As for women having to battle PMS while working, this is true, but I wouldn't fancy running around a tennis court for 2 hours when I have my period! A few tennis players have in the past mentioned PMS in interviews after a match when asked to explain their form. Candice 21:04, July 4 2005 (UTC)

what's with that ted watts link? (btw, i'm not the one who wrote "what happened to this link" in the article. but it's a good question) --172.216.113.32 16:21, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Picture needed urgently

Why can't someone put a picture of her. We'd like to see a photo of her very much thank you Batzarro 17:07, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Close out"

"The era of domination by the Williams sisters began to close out after the murder" -- what is meant by "close out"? I don't know if it's a sports term or what, but it isn't familiar to me and I suspect it might not be to others either. Perhaps it could use some rewording. 71.82.214.160 21:42, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV/NPOV editing re: venus's cultural impact

@TennisExpert, Adding the things about Venus's cultural impact on the game does not present a point of view. It merely states facts. Is it not true and significant that Venus was the first black World No. 1 since Arthur Ashe and the first black female ever? I believe it was considered very significant at the time. Moreover, her role in gaining equal pay for women is well-documented, true, and easily referenced and sourced. How, then, does a factual account present a point of view?

You are totally out of line in reverting these edits on POV grounds, and you are ignoring Wikipedia's reverting policy, which I urge you to review. Reverting is used mainly for combatting vandalism. Wikipedia states that "If you feel the edit is unsatisfactory, improve it rather than simply reverting or deleting it," which you are welcome to do. You are not to simply revert "good faith edits" at your own personal whim and if an edit contains valid info, Wikipedia states, in bold, "Do not revert changes simply because someone makes an edit you consider problematic, biased, or inaccurate. Improve the edit, rather than reverting it."

Thank you.

[edit] The comments expressed here have validity......

but no one posted anything in reference to her educational background. It seems that she still has another fight on her hands and that is the fight to be recognized as an educated individual, as well as a talented tennis professional. It's sad that in this day and age that she is still seen as just a "gifted athelete" with natural abilities.

[edit] Tennis classification

I have classified this article as a B-class article similar to the WP:Biography. It needs to be sourced. Its importance has been ranked as high again similar to WP:BIO. Capitalistroadster 19:55, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Errata

Grand Slam total of 18 doesn't match 6+6+2 shown.--Billymac00 01:44, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re no.1 world ranking

I think it would more accurately represent African-Americans and a world #1 ranking by including more of the information given in the bbc article referenced by footnote 5:

"Williams is the first African-American, man or woman, to reach the top spot on either the ATP or WTA computer rankings.

"But in the pre-ranking era former greats such as Althea Gibson and Arthur Ashe were also regarded as the best in the world during parts of their careers, and Williams paid tribute to the former.

" 'It would be foolish to forget Althea Gibson. She was the first.' [Venus Williams]"

The Wiki author does qualify Venus' #1 ranking by stating it is since computer rankings began. It would be good to include the names of Arthur Ashe and Althea Gibson and Venus' comment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Messier110 (talk • contribs) 10:56, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Expanded

I expanded on Venus's best years. I always thought it was sad when I saw this page and her 1997-2002 was cramped in a short paragraph, but the latter part of her career was so expansive. Most of her greatest accomplishments occurred during this stage of her career and it shouldn't get such a quick brush over. If you look at other tennis players' wiki pages they reflect this (e.g. Serena and Henin). I think people (myself included) didn't want to go back and document the pre-wiki years. The authority for any citation is the wtatour.com page for Venus. (Edit - didn't realize I wasn't logged in at the time). 23:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC) - Username is "Agrippina Minor"

venus williams is 27 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.56.57.50 (talk) 01:26, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Location of the Sony Ericsson Open

The Sony Ericsson Open takes place in Miami and its name is the Miami Masters. According to the WTA and ATP tours it takes place in Miami and for all official ATP and WTA effects and references Miami is considered its location, not Key Biscayne. This can be corroborated by visiting the official Web sites of the WTA and ATP tours. Thefore, I eliminated all references to Key Biscayne as the venue for the Miami Masters in this article. All other Wikipedia articles that refer to Key Biscayne as the venue for the Sony Ericsson Open should be fixed. --190.10.76.226 (talk) 17:49, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

You are mistaken in at least two respects. First, the official name of this tournament is the Sony Ericsson Open, not the Miami Masters. Second, the tournament is held in Key Biscayne, Florida, as this link plainly shows. Tennis expert (talk) 22:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tennis_expert" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.10.76.226 (talk) 16:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
The Sony Ericsson Open is just the sponsored name! The official name is the Miami Masters. If you do your research you will find out that a few years back the Miami Masters was called the Nasdaq 100 Open. Sony Ericsson is just the current sponsor and has a contract that runs thru 2010 or 2011, not sure when exactly. And although the tounrmanet takes place at Crandon Park in Key Biscayne the WTA consider this a tournament that takes place in Miami and that's how they state it in all of their official media information. If you don't believe me just go to their site and read it for yourself.
Here's the proof for the skeptics out there:
WTA Tornament Schedule: [1]
Next time do some research before trying to correct someone. --190.10.76.226 (talk) 17:49, 6 June 2008 (UTC)