Talk:Vehicular homicide

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[edit] Vehicular Manslaughter versus Vehicular Homicide

I have an acquaintance who has recently been charged with vehicular homicide because he had an accident while driving under the infuence of alcohol. What I am seeking a better understanding of is whether vehicular homicide is a more serious offense than vehicular manslaughter. It seems from my reading that homicide is the automatic charge becuase alcohol was involved. Manslaughter would be the more serious crime if it were voluntary manslaughter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.55.224.26 (talk • contribs) June 17, 2006

[edit] sources

Attn: Uncle G or whoever else, here is a summary of Minnesota's Vehic. Homicide statute. --W.marsh 00:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Death of an unborn child

There's a whole load of source material about vehicular manslaughter and unborn children, and various courts' views of the matter, at:

  • Emma Cave (2004). The Mother of All Crimes: Human Rights, Criminalization and the Child Born Alive. Ashgate Publishing, Ltd., 48. ISBN 0754623661. 
  • John (John A.) Seymour (2000). Childbirth and the Law. Oxford University Press, 140. ISBN 0198264682. 

However, much of the discussion in the literature is general, and not specific to vehicular manslaughter. It includes discussion of murder, assault, and other offences and how they are construed with respect to unborn children. There's probably a better place to discuss the subject of the "born alive" rule than here. Uncle G 12:46, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

  • I agree, it seems important to mention in this article but not something to dwell on. I'm surprised we didn't have an article on that topic actually, you might consider adding it to Template:Abortion (under "Debate & social issues") for increased visibility. --W.marsh 15:02, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
    • As a common law legal principle it relates to homicide rather than to abortion, though. Uncle G 01:55, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Examples of People Convicted

I see nothing wrong with citing examples of "high-profile" people convicted of this crime (as well as "high-profile" people who managed to get off). Your removal of this item from this page is no more than some odd version of being "politically correct". So long as the cites are accurate, there is nothing wrong with making lists.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.236.15.105 (talk • contribs)

Why is this notable, though? And it seems very politically motivated and biased to list people you think were guilty of it but "got off". There were also no citations, contrary to your claim above. --W.marsh 14:19, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I can't find any reliable source for Kennedy having been charged with vehicular manslaughter. According to this conspiracy page (which is in itself obviously inappropriate as a source on Wikipedia), he was charged "only with leaving the scene of an accident after causing personal injury." Without a reliable source that he was charged with vehicular homicide, the text as it was may be interpreted as libelous. It's true that there has been wide public perception that Kennedy might have been involved, but "wide public perception" is really just another phrase for gossip, which doesn't belong in Wikipedia. I've removed Kennedy from the article. Please don't reinsert him without proper citations. (Speaking of which, I have added citations for the list of those convicted. This information is potentially quite controversial, and ready citations may be necessary to discourage editors from randomly inserting false accusations.) --Moonriddengirl 16:31, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some of the "famous people convicted" were actually convicted of vehicular manslaughter

Dwayne Goodrich and Lane Garrison. Should they be removed from this list?

Wilson44691 (talk) 19:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
This section has long been a problem... in fact at one point the article seemed to be a WP:COATRACK just to hang the list on. I have removed the list for now. Anyone can re-add it but they should take the above comment about inaccuracy into consideration. --W.marsh 22:45, 11 January 2008 (UTC)