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[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!!!

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[edit] Pseudo stereo

I reverted your addition to Stereophonic sound. It's not completely wrong, but it's not at all referenced nor is it as broad a section as it could be. Your guess about 14 milliseconds of delay on one channel appears to me to be original research. In addition to various delay times that have been tried, there are also pseudo stereo methods that have used frequency shifting (dynamic EQ) to derive two different channels for quasi- or pseudo-stereo. It's all a game. o_O

At any rate, the section will need to cite an expert third party reference in order to stand. Binksternet (talk) 00:50, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, granted, I used my own "research" in case of those pseudo stereo methods. Sorry! I was not fully aware, at that time, that it is no-no with Wiki's policy. Here I have my question: are you the original author of that article? If so, I have the suggestion: if you are so aware of existence of those different methods in quasi or pseudo stereo, why you did not mention about them at all?

After I read your answer, I do make some research in those methods all over the Internet and found few reliable (maybe?) Web pages mentioning them. Will they be accepted as sufficient third party sources for you?

Here are links:

• Hyperprism-DX Stereo Manipulation Processes
• MultitrackStudio: Pseudo Stereo
• Time magazine, 1961. Pseudo stereo
• Patent for Mono to Pseudo Stereo conversion device. Kishii, Tatsuya and Noro, Masao
• US Patent 5355416 - Psycho acoustic pseudo-stereo fold back system. Bill Sacks, 1994
• A Review and an Extension of Pseudo-Stereo for Multichannel Electroacoustic Compositions: Simple DIY ideas By P.-A. Gauthier

Vega2 (talk) 05:01, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

No, I am not the original author of the article. The reason I haven't added the information I shared with you about pseudo stereo (derived from mono sources) is that it is my original research. I do a lot of restoration on vintage mono recordings and I examine vintage songs that are available on CD.

Your sources are fantastic. The first two links are good enough if used together to show what is being done with software. The two patents are the best ones for establishing real world practices. Gauthier's DIY advice article is the most comprehensive and would be quoted a lot in a pseudo stereo article. The TIME magazine article from 1961 will be good for showing what the popular perception was at that time, as well as the motivation for 'doctored stereo'. Good stuff. Binksternet (talk) 13:34, 24 May 2008 (UTC)