Category talk:Vegetarians

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This category was nominated for deletion, renaming, or merging with another category on 2007 February 4. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

This category was nominated for deletion on May 24, 2007. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

This seems to me an odd category, and there is no explanation in the Category page. Is this simply anyone who happens not to eat meat? Or is it specific to people who actively advocate for vegetarianism? or what? This seems to me more like a natural for a list than a category, but maybe I'm missing something. -- Jmabel | Talk 19:30, Mar 10, 2005 (UTC)

There is a list for it, I thought this would be easier to maintain since all you'd have to do is add a tag. I can't think of an example off the top of my head but I've seen other things that have both a list and a category. I'll flesh out the text a bit more though as I see your point. I meant for it to be for those who follow vegetarianism as a lifestyle choice. Dismas 00:35, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I think it is appropriate to categorize vegetarians. However, I think it can be problematic in determining who qualifies for categorization. Should Albert Einstein be added even though he was likely only a vegetarian for only a year or two? What if someone made an exception to their diet once every six months, does that count for categorization? On a list it is possible to provide brief descriptions, if someone's categorization might be questionable, but on a "category" it isn't really possible. Q0 00:54, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Fictional vegetarians 2 Questionable 2.1 Hitler 3 Additional V's 4 Hitler 5 Al Yankovic 6 subcategories 7 Nick Rhodes? 8 [Nationality] Vegetarians

[edit] Fictional vegetarians

Also, I think fictional vegetarians are best categorized separately, perhaps in a subcategory. Q0 00:57, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Questionable

Where do people get it from that: Da Vinci, Schweitzer, Wagner etc. were vegetarians? It is nowhere in their articles. Waerth 03:04, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hitler

The following comment was left on the category page 6 Aug 2005 by User:24.107.12.208; I moved it here. -- Jmabel | Talk 00:04, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

DELETE HITLER! He was NOT a vegetarian!

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Adolph Hitler was NOT a vegetarian. I don't know why this myth continues. His biographers document the meat he ate, and his own personal chef details the types of foods he ate.

I have no idea of the facts on this. An actual citation rather than a handwave of "his biographers…his own personal chef" would probably settle the matter. -- Jmabel | Talk 00:04, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

http://www.vegsource.com/berry/hitler.html is a review of the book "HITLER: NEITHER VEGETARIAN NOR ANIMAL LOVER" by Rynn Berry. The book provides numerous sources, including quotes from his personal cook, and contemporary NYT articles, to debunk the "Hitler was vegetarian" myth. When squab and sausage are your favorite foods, "vegetarian" is not an accurate term.

[edit] Additional V's

Thom Yorke is a vegetarian. (User:Bjones 1 June 2005)

Hitler was certainly not a vegetarian. His chef has even published his favourite (meat) recipes. The wikipedia article Vegetarianism of Adolf Hitler points out that he enjoyed sausages, caviar, squab and ham. It would seem that his alleged vegetarianism was a piece of Nazi myth-making. Since vegetarians are often taunted about this, and compared with Hitler, this mistaken category should be removed.

On the other hand, British socialist politicians Tony Benn and the late Tony Banks are/were committed vegetarians, and I have added the category to their entries. RolandR 23:36, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hitler

I have also found no evidence that Hitler was a vegetarian. The general consensus is that he was not. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.106.234.197 (talk • contribs) 18 Nov 2005.

read Vegetarianism of Adolf Hitler . general consensus is: he was vegetarian with heart and soul. i´ll add him to the list. Iwantedthedudebutitwasgone 14:42, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Al Yankovic

"Weird Al" Yankovic is a vegetarian. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.10.44.254 (talk • contribs) 8 March 2006.

Add Don Imus and Eric Idle under the "I" section.

I'd be ok with putting Hittler back if we can get rid of Don Imus.Vegasjon 22:22, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] subcategories

It seems a bit nonsensical that "Da Vinci" and "Gandhi" are considered subcategories of vegetarians. I think those subcategories should be removed from the page. Great as they might have been, Da Vinci and Gandhi are individuals, not subcategories of vegetarians. --Osbojos 19:54, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

You're right. I removed the da Vinci Category. --John.constantine 22:59, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't Gandhi be removed s a subcategory as well? EliF 17:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I suggest that this list be edited and be subjected to citations; some seem like a bit of a stretch and don't seem to have factual backing.

[edit] Nick Rhodes?

How do I go about adding Nick Rhodes (of Duran Duran) to this list? Rhodes was introduced to vegetarianism by Warren Cuccurullo sometime in the mid '90s, when Cuccurullo and Rhodes were bandmates and Cuccurullo was following a health-conscious vegetarian, macrobiotic diet. Ever since, Rhodes has kept up the vegetarian lifestyle, even though Cuccurullo is back to eating meat. In fact, in the tour program for Duran's 25th anniversary tour (which took place from 2003 - 2004), there are several hand-written lists done up by Nick Rhodes; one of them is entitled "I do not..." and "Eat animal corpses" is listed as one of those "do not"s (along with such things as "Drive" and "Speak Cantonese"), which makes me feel that he is still very much a vegetarian. Krushsister 04:50, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

It is not a list, it is a category - see Wikipedia:Category and Help:Category for more info. To add the article to it, go to the Nick Rhodes article and edit it and add [[Category:Vegetarians|Rhodes, Nick]] to the bottom of the article, with all of the other category tags. It is probably also a good idea to add the details you mention here to the text of the article, preferably with some reliable sources cited. --Vclaw 11:54, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! I'm a bit of a Wikipedia novice. I'll actually have to do some additional research on this before I do the category edit thingamabob, but once I have that information, I'll go for it, including "some reliable sources" in the links section. Krushsister 07:36, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] [Nationality] Vegetarians

I have noticed that many people have been removed from "Vegetarians" and put into "Russian Vegetarians" et cetera. Why? Not only why the national specific categories were created, but why this warrents removal from this category. I understand it makes it bloated to be in two kinds of Vegetarian categories but this category would lose it's purpose - and I haven't seen a discussion on this. --A Sunshade Lust 22:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Categorization. We don't usually put an article both in a category and in its parent. If there is another breakdown of this that makes equal sense (e.g. vegans, lacto-ovo-vegetarians, etc.), we could put them in those categories as well, but the idea is that by subdividing like this we prevent any given category becoming immense and unwieldy. - Jmabel | Talk 17:58, 1 August 2006 (UTC)