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User:Nichalp/sg 10:56, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Indian history

Hi. I won't be editing the History of India for today. Will you be there tomorrow? I will be adding stuff on Chandragupta and the Maurayans tomorrow. PS. 1) The Saraswati river does not exist. See the History talk page. 2) Please mention your sources. Which book or site have you got your matter from? Thanks. User:Nichalp/sg 15:12, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

Don't worry about that. You're doing gret work. We'll sort out issues later after the addition of text. User:Nichalp/sg 17:31, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summaries

Please use 'Edit summaries (the small one line textbox below the big textbox) while editing. It makes it easier to follow what you've done. Thanks User:Nichalp/sg 14:28, July 16, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] About [Indian Mafia] article

Are you planning to start the article anytime soon... I would love to find out more about Vardarajan Mudaleyar and Hajji Mastana. hydkat 08:41, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] response

I agree that the article is and should be a show piece to create a first impression. But more importantly, it is important to depict the diveristy of India.

Hence it would be better to include some northern indian temple, not because south indian temples arent grand enough, but because there is already one instance in the article. Something like somnath or dilwara or Golden temple would be apt (there is no reason why it should be only a Hindu tenple, and not a sikh or jain templle or a mosque or church or synagogue or fire temple - think about that).

Pizzadeliveryboy 14:37, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] hindu = indic????

Re. your last line, who said Hindu = Indic???? It could also mean Buddhist or Jain or Sikh!!!

Pizzadeliveryboy 17:08, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good work

History of sex in India is really a good work. Congratulations. --Bhadani 13:45, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] good point

Good point re. Alexander's map. But remember - that man had more of an impact on Indian culture than any other foreign invader till the Brits - heck, we name people after him 2500 years on (Sikandar).....so implying his impact was minor is wrong....yup, I do agree a map of the Seleucid invasions in the Indian subcontinent with focus on the subcontinent would be more pertinent.

Pizzadeliveryboy 14:19, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] names of ancient empires instead of modern states

Good idea - I think instead of using just modern political entities, we should use the ancient names of the regions/kingdoms/empires, with juxtaposition with modern political names wherever necessary. So, Khmer Empire in modern Kampuchea. I have begun by junking out Burma, even though it is actually an European corruption of Brahmadesh (unverified!!!). I would rather use Khmer instead of Thailand et. al., and Bali and Sumatra. Help me out on this one.

Whats the point of using modern names if we are essentially referring to the ancient history of these people, Indian or not??!!Surely mentioning "Indonesian/Pakistani History in the 1st Millenium BC" makes no sense, since these nations didnt exist then. Ofcurse, mentioning "Pakistani/Indonesian/... history in the early 20th century" would make sense, since the concept and idea of Pakistan, for instance, had already been promulgated and vetted by those concerned.

Pizzadeliveryboy 16:11, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] mass migration

The term mass migration implies the involvement of a large number of people, or a significant number of individual tribes and groups. This is independent of whether the migration was a gradual one or it happenned in one go (The Aryan Invasion theorists would love to believe so).

In the late Bronze Age, where this incident was set, actual physical movement and contact of people would be absolutely necessary for ideas to spread. Civilization had not yet invented long distance communications of any sort, and to believe that a small bunch of traders/travelers/preachers/vagabonds were able to influence the thinking of the original inhabitants of the subcontinent with their (Vedic) ideas, and then (maybe) return back is at best absurd. It would be virtually impossible to justify the superimposition of alien ideas into native cultures without some sort of long term interaction - surely, such interaction went on for several generations/centuries, were neither purely confrontational, not completely benign, but rather a mixture of both. Hence I used the term "mass" to denote the quantum of the people involved, and the time involved in the process. I did not mean they all jumped the boat one fine day and look for the shortest route out to India.
You could fill me with the details, from what I recollect from DiscOfIndia, there were entire armies in the south that set sail across the Bay of Bengal - not millions, but atleast thousands - so yes, it wasnt some small time expedition, but a concerted effort to expand, militarily or otw. Moreover, many of the interior sections of SE Asia were actually colonized by the descendants of those Indians who settled after the initial wave, and not by first gen Indians.

Pizzadeliveryboy 15:59, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion in Indian Mafia article

Someone Deleted the summary and replaced if with a colorful hindi abuse :) Reverted to previous edit... Check the revision page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indian_mafia&diff=39487665&oldid=38958836

hydkat 05:24, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 6700 BC

Hi

I've proposed 6700 BC for deletion on the following grounds:

No sources cited, and no context either. History of Kashmir makes no mention of this, nor does Ashoka. If anything verifiable exists about this, this "article" should be merged into 7th millennium BC and/or History of Kashmir. It contains too little information to stand alone as an article

Whether or not the date is provable (or is it a baseline, a sort of "year zero") the article as it stands simply doesn't contain enough information to stand as an article. There's also a convention that years before a single point are simply redirects to the relevant millennium (see 6100 BC, for example). Perhaps 6700 BC should be a redirect to 7th millennium BC, with an appropriate entry (duly sourced and expanded) on that page? Regards. Tonywalton  | Talk 17:08, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Since you've now said that it's a "joke", I'm tagging it for speedy deletion. Regards. Tonywalton  | Talk 17:19, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


It seems that you are trying to make some sort of WP:POINT, the subtlety of which escapes me. If you wish I'll move the article to AfD and we'll get it thrashed out there. Whatever the ins and outs of some POV wrangling, however, an unsourced, admitted "joke" article four words long will not stay around, I suspect. Let it die gracefully via speedy or try to justify it via AfD. Your call, I think. Tonywalton  | Talk 17:42, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] INCOTW

Hi, I have removed your noms as we do not have more than 6 noms at a given point of time - pl. see the rules. Also, no user should have more than one article nominated by him in the six (the later rule added just now). And finally, for the INCOTW, at least a stub should be available. Thanks, --Gurubrahma 13:55, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Nope, I'm afraid you'll have to do it. I will also keep an eye and nominate as soon as there is space. But which of the two?? --Gurubrahma 14:18, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Holi greeting...

HAPPY HOLI TO YOU! --hydkat 12:11, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Greetings, the holi-hangover continues! --Bhadani 07:41, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] vedic metal up for deletion

I removed the deletion tag. Please try to expand it.--Dangerous-Boy 22:12, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vedic metal was voted to be deleted before - so it should remain that way. Spearhead 16:56, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

it is a minor, regional substyle of metal and hence a subsection of folk metal should more than suffice. Viking metal on the other hand has a much broader span and a number of these bands are more than notable, e.g. Bathory, Enslaved Spearhead 17:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
what does it seem notable to you? Only a single band appears to be notable (rudra); unless it grows it is not notable. Spearhead 17:14, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Some of those others had record contracts, and a level of regional fame akin to Scandanavian-bands, etc. And I am unsure why these bands need to be notable - I assume you are a metalhead - if so, you should understand exactly how little concepts of 'success' and 'recognition' can be in this genre. Vastu 17:37, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Well notability is a criterion for inclusion in WP. There is a guideline for bands that should be followed, consult WP:MUSIC regardless of style, region, etc. If there are non or few notable bands within a sub-genre, i would doubt that the genre itself would be notable. Anyway, to short cut this discussion, do as proposed below. And if you think Viking metal is not notable either bring it to afd or put a prod tag on it. Spearhead 17:44, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vedic metal

Hi, thanks for your inquiry. First let me state that I personally found the concept of Vedic metal fascinating, and would like to see it grow so the young generation can enjoy the ancient wisdom of Vedas through the music. But the policy states that, once an article is deleted through AfD process, it is not to be created, and if it is created it is to be deleted under CSD G4, the recreation of deleted materials. If you have objections, I recommend you bring this issue to Wikipedia:Deletion review, where you can discuss with other users whether the article should be undeleted. Please let me know if you have any further question. I am glad some people cherish and care about Vedic metal, by the way. --BorgQueen 17:04, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] INCOTW

Kindly inform the other users interested in writing about the article which you have nominated for the INCOTW. Thanks. --Andy123(talk) 14:22, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dholavira

To : Vastu

You have started article on Dholavira and now more information is downloaded on Dholavira. The Ancient Metropolitan City Dholavira is not reconginsed for World Heritage Site of UNESCO or application is pending for long. Readers of this comment are requested to do the needful for World Heritage Site. vkvora 03:40, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] India culture

Hey! The previos image of Tanduri chicken was more lucrative! Moreover, the present image is not only tanduri chicken, its a whole thali.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh I see you have reveretd the image to the delicacy of Tandoor!--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:02, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Basically a thali would be more representative than a tandoori chicken. We should look for a better thali pic. However, the tandoori pic is very lively, it almost makes you long for the delicacy!! Bye.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:05, 13 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] East Asian Cinema

I notaced that the old eastern cinema article has been narrowed down into East Asian cinema - but isnt this a kinda unfair exclusion? Most people would consider India to be part of the east asian cultural block, especially given the closeness of South East Asian culture and film to Indian. Indian film, especially non-Bollywood industries, which produce regional language and art cinema, clearly support this view. The west asian cinema and culture starts with Iran - India should be included, or else, where exactly would you classify Indian cinema when it quite obiously isnt western? I strongly reccomend either including India in the east asian cinema article, or changing the entire thing back to eastern cinema - because the move seems to be one purely directed at excluding India, rather than one aimed at raising awareness. I would be glad to write that section if you wish. Vastu 05:23, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


My intention was to write an article which drew together the film industries of China, Hong Kong, Japan and South Korea, these being my area of interest, and the countries with the largest film industries in what I would know (possibly due to an Anglo-centric view) as "Eastern cinema" or "Far Eastern cinema" or "Oriental cinema". It was pointed out to me that Eastern cinema is a bit of a vague title, and to be geographically accurate, East Asia is a more appropriate term. I have since learned a little about the film industries of neighbouring countries (which would still fall geographically into East Asia), so I created the article and template to be inclusive of these areas.
I understand your gripe - what I meant by "Eastern cinema" is more correctly expressed and understood using the term "East Asian cinema". The move was not done to exclude anywhere, but to clarify my original intention.
I disagee that India should be included within this article, because I don't believe it is geographically accurate to do so. I would suggest that it is absolutely appropriate to have an "Indian cinema" article (actually Cinema of India already exists) and if you so wish, a relevant regional cinema article. Looking at the articles for East Asia and South Asia, it is clear that India falls into the latter, not the former, so your regional article would be South Asian cinema and should therefore contain summary info about the cinema of:
  • Bangladesh
  • Bhutan
  • India
  • Maldives
  • Nepal
  • Pakistan
  • Sri Lanka
and perhaps more...
Were a South Asian cinema article to exist, you could adopt the same template format I did (I originally copied it from European cinema). I would be more than happy to include references to a South Asian cinema article within the East Asian cinema article.
Gram 14:24, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
My point is perhaps a very tenuous one - but basically, what im trying to say is the geographical boundry is purely a man-made construct - for example, Thailand, a heavily Indicised culture, is part of South East Asia - thus it is both East Asian and South Asian in terms of culture and geography - yet nobody would consider defining Thailand in the same catagory as South Asia - an article on South Asian cinema would not include Thailand, Indonesia, or another South-East Asian country, yet your article on East Asian cinema does include those countries. The East Asian name of the article is perhaps well defined - but isnt informative, because of this exclusionary paradox - my point is that it is eaither better to define eastern cinema in different terms (I would actually call it eastern cinema or oriental cienma and include South Asia), or be even more strict in the East Asian definition by removing countries of South-East Asia. India is not a middle eastern country, yet is doomed to be thought of as one, despite the fact that South-East Asia bears more cultural commonality with India than with East Asia, because modern racial profiling, to put it bluntly, classifys India on the basis of the superficial appearance of Indians - non "Mongoloid" as some old anthropologists would put it. Yet what is a human? We are made of our minds not our bodies - thus when classifying Eastern cinema, should India not be amongst its other Eastern peers? A counter argument might be that Indian cinema is stylistically different - yet no more stylistically different than Thai cinema from Japanese cinema. I should point out that above your compared the wiki article on East Asia and South Asia - well those very articles illustrate the problem, since the East Asian one infact dosent include Thai and Malay lands.. Vastu 19:27, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, when I started this article I asked for assistance in several places, and little was forthcoming, so I carried on in my own vein (albeit with an admittedly limited geographical knowledge). As mentioned, the key film industries in my intended focus were those of China, Hong Kong, Japan and South Korea, as films from these countries are becoming significantly more successful in the West. I was able to add Taiwan as it too had a cinema article. I couldn't find any Cinema of Mongolia, Cinema of Vietnam or Cinema of Macau articles.
Some of the info I garnered was from the Far East article, an article, which in its opening sentence says "an inexact term often used for East Asia and Southeast Asia combined". As this article was initially called Eastern cinema I felt this to be the relevant starting point, but since moving the article "East Asian cinema" to be more geographically accurate, I've perhaps been remiss in leaving in countries that are technically in Southeast Asia - Singapore, Thailand and Malaysia (someone else added Philippines).
So the solution I would propose is to be, as you say, more strict with the definition. To remain as geographically accurate as possible we should split this article into "East Asian cinema" and "Southeast Asian cinema". I stand by my assertion that "Cinema of India" belongs in a "South Asian cinema" article. And again, there is nothing wrong with these articles referencing one another.
Geographical boundaries may well be man-made, but they are also universally recognisable. If anyone was willing to do the work, I would argue that a continental "parent" article be written too, entitled "Asian cinema", which could draw together East Asian cinema, Southeast Asian cinema, South Asian cinema and beyond.
And one final point - I created an article entitled Asian cinema purely as a redirect to this article. I concede that this is inaccurate, but did so because in my experience, Americans say Asian when they mean East Asian (wheras Brits are more likely to say Oriental). Similarly, Brits often say Asian when they mean South Asian. If proper articles for Asian cinema, South Asian cinema and Southeast Asian cinema were written, this issue would be resolved and the articles would have more educational value.
Gram 23:31, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Right, I've gone ahead and created a basic Southeast Asian cinema article and template, and have split the East Asian cinema article and template as appropriate. I had a little trouble with the templates, which hopefully someone will assist with (think I may have created them twice). I've also stopped the Asian cinema article from being a redirect to East Asian cinema, making a very basic stub. I've made reference in each of these 3 articles to South Asian cinema Gram 00:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indian comics

I tried organizing it. Even made Category:Indian comics. By the way, can you expand Vedic metal?--Dangerous-Boy 00:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] ISRO reversion

ISRO reversion done. Somebidy truncated the article during editing! Please see the talk page also. I've communicated with Bharatveer who did some minor edits inbetween the truncated version and reversion to full version, because his edits had to be reverted also, unfirtunately. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:15, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I saw the comment u made at User:Dwaipayanc 's talk page that "even the small paragraph that Bharatveer had written basically repeated what had already been said in the 1960s section" .

Will you be kind enough to point out what i had "basically repeated" in that "small" paragraph.Bharatveer 06:26, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I dont mind any of my edits being re edited .I never wrote that sentence "...about coming of age", i merely added one or two words like "developed" to make it more meaningful. Anyway thanks for ur explanation. regardsBharatveer 14:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Culture of India

Hi. I looked up this article's history and found that you have been editing this article for a while now. The article looks highly unsourced and more of original research without proper citations and sources. Could you add the citations and sources to the article? Thanks. --Nearly Headless Nick 12:54, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Map

Vastu: Your map about extant of rajput empires is not accurate. What is your source? Tatra 09:39, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Magadha han.PNG

Your map appears to misrepresent the borders of the Han dynasty, particularly in its western and southwestern regions. I'm not so familiar with Indian history, but the image also ascribes a great deal more territory to the Maghadan empire than either of the other two images found on that page. Do you have a source for this? siafu 19:57, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] INCOTW

You voted for Ayurveda, this week's Indian Colloboration of the Week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. - Ganeshk (talk) 06:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding the Indo-Greek Page

Hello Vastu,

Thank you for raising the topic of the map of the Indo-Greek kingdom with PHG. I have also been concerned about the possible misrepresentation of it (i.e. extent, whether Demetrius of Bactria was even on that side of Hindu Kush, etc)and have previously discussed it with him. While there is a dearth of maps online, the maps that I have seen in books to-date have been more conservative in treatment (at best utilizing arrows to denote the campaigns of Menander--which were not lasting), and rightfully so. There is, after all, very little certainty that we can apply to this period, and thus, this warrants cautious treatment and not wishful thinking. The main contributor to the page appears insistent on maximizing all possible Greek conquests and contributions on the subcontinent. While they undoubtedly had possessions in parts of South Asia (Afghanistan and the Trans-Indus) and contributions (coinage and art), even the recognized scholar in this subject would not treat the extent of these holdings with such certainty, dotted line or not (last I checked, Sassanid maps don't go to right upto the outskirts of Constantinople). I noticed that your correspondence with him ended about a month ago, but I do think this issue should be raised once more, as his map has been disseminated throughout the web. After all, this map isn't even a recognized one in the academic world, but one amateur historian's take on what kingdom looked like. Moreover, you will note that there is an insistence on reducing the domains of the Sungas even when there are literary references (which this contributor selectively relies on) and archeological evidence (inscriptions in Jalandhar) to point out periodic Sunga rule upto the Indus. Let me know what you think.

Regards,

Devanampriya

I agree with you, I was not very happy with his final deicision. If an Indo-Greek state had ruled that much of north India for a notable time, and not simply held it briefly in some territorial war, we would today no doubt have hellenic ruins scattered across India and Pakistan - yet the most there is is a couple of shrines. The historical sources that he has claimed are being taken at face value by PHG, when that period of history was not exactly well recorded, even by the Greeks. I think the Indo-Greek kingdom's borders were more along the lines of the Greco-Bactrian kingdom. Most importantly, while I am no cultural chauvenist, I find it annoying that his bold-border map has now circulated the internet and influenced many people into thinking India was dominated by some Hellenic state, when the reality is they havent left much more cultural impact than would have been gathered through trade. I support whatever you wish to do about it. It would be a good argument if you could describe the more conservative maps you have seen in hsitory books, and perhaps argue that a think lined border gives totally the worng impression when such books mearly mark vague campaigns - if you could scan a map from a book, that would be ideal Vastu 00:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Vastu,

   Looks like you beat me to the punch. Nice job with creating a compromise map for the Indo-Greek page. I think it's a good first step towards an overall more balanced account of this period. Although I personally favor the map you found and posted (as it allows for smaller indigenous kingdoms to factor in), it definitely is more acceptable than its predecessors. While South Asian history still has light years to go (due to dearth of accounts and Western, nationalist, and ethnic imbalances), perhaps there are other areas where we can cooperate to ensure a more empirical and scholarly account of it on wikipedia.

Regards,

Devanampriya

Sorry about my previous edit in the Indo-Greek article. I thought that u had just changed the alphabetical order... anyway, i apologise and i have reverted myself in the meantime. Regards --Hectorian 00:36, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Nah. if i had thought it was a vandalism, i would have written it in my edit summary... :) --Hectorian 00:42, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indo-Greek Kingdom maps

Hi Vastu,

Saw that you have doing a lot of work on the Indo-Greek Kingdom maps lately. However, I also note that you always upload new maps under a different name. Just wanted to tell you that it is possible to upload a new version of an image over the previous one. In the "File history" section of the image description page, you will find a link that says "Upload a new version of this file". You can use that and save time in changing the links to the old maps. Hope this helps. Regards, — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 15:19, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah thankyou, I hadnt spotted that - will use it in future. Regards, Vastu 15:32, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Samit Basu

Hi, I notaced that you added Samit Basu to the credits of the Virgin Comics 'Devi' article. I was wondering where you heard this - im interested to know, because ive been following the progress of those comics, and the addition of an Indian fantasy novellist would be cool. Thanks. Vastu 15:42, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey Vatsu,
Samit is a personal friend, so the information is straight from the horse's mouth, as it were. He has finished writing issue #3 (I've seen the drafts), and it should hit the stands in September. He tells me he's planning to change the tone of the comic completely.Gamesmaster G-9 18:48, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Mauryan Empire

Hello Vastu,

    I was wondering if you could take a look at the continued debate between PHG and myself on the Mauryan Empire. I am very concerned about the material discussed and cited here, and believe it to be injurious to the readability and the accuracy of the article. I do not believe it to be in line with Wikipedia's aims. These "theories" have since been discredited, and were developed more than fifty years ago by british colonial historians. PHG seems keen on including this since it allows him to establish that the bactrian greeks advanced into India to protect buddhism or for dynastic claims--preposterous for the reasons I have noted. I would be interested to hear what you think, since we've seen this type of work before, and was wondering if you could help out.

Regards,

Devanampriya

[edit] ==

hey, just left you a reply. it seems you are confusing kalari with traditional martial arts. there's a huge element of religion in it. and there is a lot of martial dance in it. those pictures that you see of people jumping on that webpage are not exagerrated pictures. most kalari pracitioners that perform it do perform many rituals within it along with choreographed movements. it's a combination of religion, dance, lifestyle, and martial art. hard to describe.Elmo1 21:29, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Not really... i've actually seen it on tv and in real life.Elmo1

[edit] Kalarippayattu

Do you actually have a copy of Kalarippayat by D.H. Luijendijk?
Apparently it contains a reference to a ban under the British colonial government in 1804.
If you could provide me with the actual text that relates to the ban like how I provided Zarrilli's text about the decline of KP it would be most appreciated. Thank you.
JFD 22:45, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know.
JFD 22:53, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kalaripayattu

Hello Vastu,

We can put the images regading Filims on the sub topic Films on Kalarippayattu, so that the main pages can be dedicated to the topic itself. talk

[edit] Rajesh Again

Hello Vastu,

I got what you mean to say, You want to attract people on to a perticular subject, I also agry to your point but while creating a web page you have to think of the page size also, when more pictures are added to a page useres with less bandwidth get irritated and they wont try to read the subject. Another point I want to make into notice is that if you go through Wikipedia featured articles you can see that only main subjects are highlighted all others are pointed as a subtopics.

Regards

Rajesh

Forgot to say one more thing..

"its like leaving the concept of Chi, acupuncture points, and Qigong out of Kung Fu..." If you trace back to the old articles of Kalari you can see there was mentioning of Marmas etc, but somebody deleted that portion, I could not check that, I am trying to bring it back so dont worry, We can make this article a Featured article...

Rajesh

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atheism in Hinduism

You might want to get your 2 cents in on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atheism in Hinduism.
JFD 23:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that poll out.
I noticed from your user page that you were an ethnic Indian interested in atheism so I assumed it was your cup of tea.
I notaced in some of your earlier private messages that some people have accused you of nationalism - id like to re-assure you that I do not think you are biased - although you quite obiously understand pluralism, its always nice to be re-assured :-)
Thank you. I do appreciate your reassurance.
some of those people who accused you no doubt feel defensive thanks to the numerous illogical nationalistic orginisations that play a part in India - and indeed every other society and artificial divide on earth. But alas, you already know this :-)
That's the nature of every dogmatist, whether political, national, or religious. It wouldn't matter if you're with them 99%; even a 1% difference makes you their enemy.
Again, thank you, for your assumption of my good faith in spite of what others were saying about me.
Very best wishes,
JFD 00:49, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Mauryan Empire/Ashoka Support=

Hello again Vastu,

   As you know, there was an edit war on the mauryan empire and ashoka articles on account of PHG's insistence on positing that ashoka was descended from greeks, in spite of what is stated in the ashokavadana, and establishing it as the mainstream view.  I was wondering if you could consider the discussion on this and join me in appealing to the sys op who froze the edit war with the false contents. I know you're busy with other stuff, but we're both concerned about the historical accuracy of these articles, so that's why I want to include you. I suggested the creation of an ashoka origin page, along the lines of one created for Chandragupta (to move theorizing and opinion off the maing page). I would appreciate your perspective and perhaps your support in raising this point to the sys op and ensuring that people are not misinformed. Thank you.

Best Regards,

Devanampriya

[edit] New Indo-Greek Map

Hi, I was working on making a newer, better looking map for the Indo-Greeks page and noticed you had been active in trying to edit it previously. I have been trying to get PHG to help me with information as to the nature of Indo-Greek forays into central India, but he seems pretty insistent on clinging to the most ambitious theories possible. I was wondering if you might be able to help me help him moderate. So far he has been unwilling to compromise with any of the people who have talked to him. Windy City Dude 21:50, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Continuing Indo Greek Discussion

Hello Vastu,

I know you must be busy with other issues at this stage, but we could really use your help on the Indo Greek page. A user is attacking some of your old contributions, in spite of their balance, and we are still in the middle of a deadlock. Given your track record of objectivity, we could use your support in ending this debate. We wouldn't require much of your time, just a few lines noting your opinion. The present proposal is an abomination, showing indo greeks reaching well into the deccan! It is becoming increasingly clear that some of the users are motivated more by a desire to show as much indian territory under greek rule as possible, rather than simply marking what actually transpired. Your assistance here would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.

Regards,

Devanampriya 18:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Historical powers (Mughal)

Help! I am working on a stub about the Mughal Empire and found a map you made, I have use it, so thanks, but I was hoping that you could look at my intro about the Mughal's, I am unclear on some dates, such as the time period that the map is showing. I hope you can help me fix this, thanks and let me know how you like the look of your map.[1]

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If you have time, check out The Sadhu page. I've updated it extensively. Better still, please go to the peer review section and give me some feedback. Zuracech lordum 10:55, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] RE:Indian martial arts

Thanks for your message and I look forward to your contributions. I appreciate the work done on the Virgin comics articles, and Kalari (with minor tweaks it could go to FA class). I plan to eventually edit/expand the Virgin line as well; I've already committed to improving the Sadhu article but unfortunately can't keep up presently.

Regards, Freedom skies| talk  17:13, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

A D-company style graphic novel would be great; Ramayan 3392 is my favourite work as well. The thing with minor publications is that a template can be made and put on all the pages before they expand like Wildstorm or Dark Horse did. That way the new users can see the entire line for themselves. I actually tried to use the Storm (Marvel Comics) article as reference as it's a GA; it has a couple of extra sections though. I should be ready to work on the Virgin line in a couple of days if nothing goes wrong.
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[edit] Please Help

Vastu,

Now more than ever we need your help on the Indo-Greek Map. It has only gotten worse since you left. PHG broke the agreement once you stopped contributing to that page and has now posted a map that extends Indo Greek boundaries into Maharashtra and Madhya Pradesh. I know you may have other priorities, but this is a clear case of NPOV violation and original research, and he has mocked the fact that you no longer are active in the debate. We really need your help or at the very least a show of support. That map is making a mockery of both indian history and wikipedia.

Regards,

Devanampriya 00:08, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Vastu,

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply. I too share your frustration at the degradation of these articles by such individuals, and thus, can understand your feelings towards contributing now. If you could please post on the Indo Greek talk page, however briefly, and just as a show of support, that would really make a difference. Thank you.

Regards,

Devanampriya 17:01, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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Nevermind; I see you just copied it over. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 14:57, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

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