Talk:Vassula Ryden

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More information about this article... The following comments have been left for this page: Almost all of the information comes from the alleged prophetess' website and is, therefore, very onesided. When dealing with an individual that is controversial, there should be a balanced approach to the information's sources. The fact that the Catholic Church has officially dismissed her writings as "personal meditations" and not supernatural is relevant and should be in the writeup. So should the fact that the Orthodox Church does not support her either. (edit)

[edit] Outrageously biased

The article is outrageously biased. It states a number of unverifiable claims about divine revelation as facts, and consistently fails to provide alternative accounts of Ryden's stories. It should be fully rewritten by a competent, neutral editor. Taragüí @ 18:12, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

I concur, if you read the documents from the Vatican, there can be no doubt that the writings ARE NOT private relevation (from Heavan) but personal considerations of Mrs Ryder. It is implied that, like Fatima and Lourdes, the writings are on the same level. This is blatently misleading, because Fatima and Lourdes ARE private relevations, recognised by the church, without warnings from the Vatican, and Mrs Ryder's writings are only personal consideration, with warnings from the vatican. See [1] for texts. Therefor I will correct the text.Stijn Calle 13:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Believer

As someone who trusts in the messages of Vassula Ryden, and as a religious person in general, I take heinous offence at phrases like "an entity identifying itself as 'Jesus'". This page just needs a small note at the top saying that nothing can be proven, and that the truth of everything stated is subject to the readers opinion.

[edit] Rewritten

Article rewritten. / br. J 6 Feb. 2006

Although Mrs. Ryden has a few Roman Catholic priests who seem to believe that Jesus is the one communicating with her mainly because the messages seem to be theologicaly sound, the story of a lay woman getting messages from something claiming to be Jesus has happened before Mrs. Helen Schucman is just one example. She claimed to have been given messages from Jesus and produced the "new gospel" which corrected all the errors in the Authentic One!

Since it appears that the real theologians at the Vatican have nixed the possibility that Jesus "this time" is really communicating through this woman, it seems that demons would most likely be responsible. They like to lie about who they are. They love to pretend to be good beings suggesting that they are Jesus or angels of Heaven. Look at the stupid demon who began talking to Joseph Smith. Smith was arrested for divining which is an occultic activity. Then when the supposed angel Mormoni began talking to him he believed that it was a Heavenly angel. What he didn't seem to understand is that someone who messes around with the occult is not going to get Heavenly visiters but demonic ones! I mean Mormoni? Please!

To the person who "trusts" the messages of Mrs. Ryden why not just read the real Bibles and get your messages from them instead of another Christian who seems to be loosing her way by one of Satan's monkeys? Carr 17:52, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Estas equivocado Carr, los mensajes de Vassula son auteticos mensajes Cristianos, conformes con la Biblia y dictados por Jesucristo, es un error pensar que esto es obra de Belzebu.

Dios Trinitario te ilumine! 201.242.231.31 17:51, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Follow the Rules

Anyone who edits this article is required to follow the rules of wikipedia on biographies of living persons which you will see at the following link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons

If anyone tries to re-modify this article, putting author-opinionated comments such as stating Vassula's writings not being of divine origin etc, this WILL be taken on to the next level and we will get an independent 3rd party to intervene based on the abovementioned guidelines.

As for this comment:

I concur, if you read the documents from the Vatican, there can be no doubt that the writings ARE NOT private relevation (from Heavan) but personal considerations of Mrs Ryder. It is implied that, like Fatima and Lourdes, the writings are on the same level.

While you are entitled to your own opinions and free to quote the Vatican on this and put that quotation in the article, do NOT attempt violate wiki's guidelines by inserting YOUR opinion on Vassula or YOUR opinion on the authenticity of her works in the article. This is a clear violation of the rules and any further attempts to do this will be taken to a higher level and we will make sure to have the article removed completely and permanently. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arkatakor (talk • contribs) 17:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)