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I think Varig went out of business in March 2005 - Adrian Pingstone 20:23, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
No, VARIG is being helped by Brazil government to keep on bussiness. VASP went out this year. TransBrasil was went in 2001. --GuimlBR 01:17, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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- It hasn't gone out of business yet, but it is currently bankrupt. It will probably go out of business as attempts to find investors who are willing to buy it have failed. It is surprising that the wikipedia article has literaly ignored Varig's current troubles !
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- In fact, the Brazilian government is NOT helping Varig at all.
Permit me to correct your article in regard to Mr. Ruben Berta:
" Varig's first plane was a nine-passenger Dornier Wal flying boat. Its first employee, the Hungarian Ruben Berta, later became the airline's President and led the airline through great expansion until his death in 1966. The airline started operations on 15 July 1927. Varig's first flight was from Porto Alegre to Rio Grande, stopping in Pelotas."
Mr. Ruben Martin Berta was indeed of Hungarian ancestry on his mother side, however born in Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil on November 9, 1907 and deceased in Rio de Janeiro on December 14, 1966.
Joseph Oliveira Varig employee 13445 from Nov 3, 1966 through July 18, 2006 josepholiveira1@yahoo.com
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[edit] Reasons
No reasons are given for the crisis. Lack of demand? High costs? Old equipment? Mismanagement?
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- The reason is mismanagement. It is expected, however, that from mid-December 2006, the so called "New Varig" will be managed in a more business-oriented fashion, when it will receive Federal approval to fly routes from the "Old Varig". It means that the new company will probably be less lenient to employees misruling the company, as was happening while the Ruben Berta Foundation was controlling Varig.
[edit] Accidents
I decided to remove the following information, as I think it is not really encyclopedic. I remember that on the day of this incident, the passengers did not even noticed the landing problem, and it did not not characterized a hull loss.
- 16 June 2006, Flight 2004, at Brasília Airport, Brazil. The MD-11 jet lost its central rear landing gear while touching down. The aircraft landed safely and none of the 108 passengers aboard were injured.
[edit] MD-11
Does VRG still opeterate MD-11s ? --EuroSprinter 19:03, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
- No. Some of their MD-11s have been repossessed, while 3 of the MD-11s have been transferred to TAM by Boeing as a stopgap solution until the 777s they ordered arrive.--Dali-Llama 21:11, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
I know all that, but in July 2006, three MD-11s were transferred to VRG Linhas Aéreas. Since January, the fleet is down to two, and someone anonymous has changed that info both on the airline and the aircraft article without providing any source where to check. So if the MD-11 is out of the "new" Varig fleet, since when is it ? --EuroSprinter 21:53, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- Up until a few months ago, Varig was operating 6 MD-11s. 3 were transferred to TAM. That we know for sure. According to this, the other three have been placed in storage and two of those are apparently going to Aeroflot. Of the TAM aircraft, two of those are also going to Aeroflot once they get their 777s. There's more info on this on the MD-11 page.--Dali-Llama 23:06, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Varig is definitely still operating at least one MD-11 right now. I know, because it's flown me across the Atlantic (Frankfurt-Sao Paolo) twice in the last two weeks. The on-board entertainment system is broken, though. And they had troubles will the climate controls. -R —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.216.92.98 (talk) 11:42, 27 May 2007
[edit] Varig 777
It is listed in fleet that Varig has ordered 4 777-200ER. I can't find a source to verify that, but I have found an Unidentified order for 4 777-300ER, source Boeing Website. --Goldwing 5000 (talk) 11:52, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Current fleet
I've inserted the out of date template due to International Route Restructuration announced on April 10th, according to company's Press Release Marcio.gregory (talk) 12:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I've updated the fleet list based on the information from the GOL press release and from information from CH-Aviation. As I could not find any information about future aircraft orders, I left the current order number for B737s as it is. I also removed the B777 order information as there is no way to verify it. I did not remove the out of date information template due to the lack of information on the aircraft orders. Samuelbecks (talk) 22:55, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Varig's Financial Situation
Hi there.
I have been trying to fix the financial situation section of the article for a while with no success.
Would it be possible for someone to summarise it or even expand and organise it as a separate article away from the Varig article?
regards
Samuelbecks (talk) 23:00, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
