Talk:Variations of the Sega Mega Drive

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Contents 1 Model No 2 Comparisons between the different models of the same Version 3 Sega Mega Drive 2 3.1 Japan 3.2 Europe, Australia, and New Zealand 4 Sega Genesis (North America, second model) 5 Sega Mega Drive 2 5.1 General 6 Differences 6.1 Japan 6.2 North America 6.3 Europe, Australia, and New Zealand 7 Sega Scorpion? 8 Justification for the edit of Japan MD2 Systems. 9 Fair use rationale for Image:Aiwasegacd.jpg 10 Four Genesis models? 11 Sega Genesis First Model 12 No sources

[edit] Model No

Both of my European Mega Drive I models ("Mega Drive PAL-G") state 1601-18 as model number while the article claims Model number 1600-05 (original model), 1601-05 (second variation without "High Definition Graphics - Stereo Sound" text or EXT port). While the 1601 as identifier for the revision without the EXT port is quite clear I wonder what's the difference between -05 and -18. One was made in Malaysia, the other one was made in China, so that's not the relevant part. --32X 19:49, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comparisons between the different models of the same Version

While the list is pretty much interesting, after some reading the reader may get confused. Some Examples:

The "new square shape" and the removed headphone jacke are mentioned everywhere, while the Mini-DIN 9 pin AV port is described different, the power LED is mentioned sometimes.

That's bad style.

Good would be (maybe not good but better):

It's quite obvious what I'd like to have - a list where the same stuff is mentioned only once and the different stuff is mentioned in a "standard" order for each region. That allows the reader to recognize what was changed between Mega Drive and Mega Drive 2 and what was changed between the Japanese Mega Drive 2 and the second model of the Genesis. Since the Genesis is only a rebranded Mega Drive (as we've learned from a recent discussion), I've put it in the same order, but on the second place since North America was a more important market than Europe.

Oh and ... some additional text at the beginning of each major paragraph doesn't hurt.

Questions appear:

• Who supports this and will rewrite that list? (I myself aren't bold enough.)
• What should be mentioned where?
  • Extra task for the original Mega Drive: How should the two Versions (MK 1600 and MK 1601) be mentioned?

Think about it. --32X 21:13, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sega Scorpion?

There used to be a games show in TV in the UK that once showed a demo unit of a Sega Mega Drive called the Scorpion that could play any game regardless of country of origin, without requiring a Universal Adaptor cartridge.

The console also had a built-in game similar to the Master System II, which was selected from a small range on purchase.

Thing is, I haven't seen a single mention of the console anywhere on the Internet.

Anyone have more information?80.195.249.202 19:37, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

- A little update, I've found the Scorpion article from the Bad Influence TV series. It wasn't an official Sega product, rather it was a UK made unlicensed Mega Drive variant. Should I add what I know to the article?80.195.249.202 19:57, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

It would be better if you put that text into this discussion first. --32X 09:07, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

You're right, sorry. I'll tell you what I know.

The Scorpion was an unlicensed variant of the Mega Drive, built bay an unspecified British company and available in certain stores of the hobby chain Beatties for around £70 (in 1991/2). One of the interesting features was that the Scorpion came with a built-in game, like the Master System II. What's different is how it was done: A second cartridge slot was built into the bottom of the unit under a hidden panel and had space to accomodate the internals of one game. This game was selected from a small selection at the store it was bought from. The secondary slot was bypassed whenever a cartridge was plugged into the primary slot.

The Scorpion also incorporated a Universal Adaptor cartridge on it's side, that was operated by a pair of switches that enabled it to play any regionally locked-out game.

Unfortunately, the Scorpion was incompatible with the 32X, as the port that connects the 32x to the Mega Drive was the wrong size. Even with a customised cable, the 32X still will not work.

The Scorpion usually came supplied with a bootleg six-button "turbo" joypad.

Hope this is useful. Sorry, I'm not very good with words.80.195.249.202 22:34, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Justification for the edit of Japan MD2 Systems.

G'day. Went looking through this topic about the variants of Megadrive systems. One I own is one that looks like the Japanese system, but is actually a PAL variant. Looks exactly the same, but will only play PAL games.

I've tested this - I own PAL, US and JPN versions of Sonic 3, which has region lockout. The JPN and US versions refuse to play [Get error about only playable on NTSC systems], but PAL version starts up fine.

The package I had it in is this:

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/6443/md26pakaw9.png

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1613/md26pakinsideeu9.png

I'm in Australia. The system also includes a manual which is both in English and Japanese. I'd imagine that the console could have been refitted, since the system didn't take off in Japan.

- Rlan —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rlan (talk • contribs) 05:50, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

Most likely to be a Hong Kong model since they're PAL and look like Japanese machines -Halo 06:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

This looks quite strange. The first image shows clearly a European (*) Mega Drive II with the Mega Games 2 cartridge (red buttons, European logo). The second image however shows a japanese Mega Drive 2 (power switch, Japanese logo). From what you've written this will most probably a "PAL asia" Mega Drive, Japanese Layout with European board settings. PAL asia stuff shouldn't differ from other PAL areas' stuff, since the MD had only 4 settings: 50/60 Hz and English/Japanese.

I have a Motocross Championship PAL cartrigde for the Mega Drive 32X "for sale and use in asia". The booklet came in 3 languages: English, one in Chinese characters, one in latin characters (maybe Indonesian). It works without problems on my European 32X.

(*) When I'm talking about European Mega Drives I in fact mean those from Europe, Australia and Oceania. --32X 00:56, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Aiwasegacd.jpg

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[edit] Four Genesis models?

I could have sworn that prior to the Majesco version, there were three Sega Genesis models released in America. I remember going to Toys R Us in 1992 and there were three models available. I chose the second model, which is in this picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sega_Genesis_original_model.jpg . The third model available was the "Genesis 2" that's listed in this article. The first model available looked like the Japanese original model that's listed, with the larger "16-bit" font. When I chose the second model, I got a free copy of Sonic 1 and was able to get Sonic 2 for free through the mail. So what's going on here? Are you guys sure this information in the article isn't missing something? Cyborg Ninja 03:56, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sega Genesis First Model

I have both the first and second models for North America. Since i did not have the proper RF adaptor to connect the original model (MK-1601) to the TV, i had to make due with a Nintendo Entertainment System RF adaptor. I was blown away that it actually works! The NES RF adaptor is a bit snug in the Genesis/Mega Drive port, but it works flawlessly, as if it were the Sega RF adaptor. Should this be mentioned on the page for others that have this console, but not the proper RF adaptors? It helped me and saved me from having to buy one off ebay... RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 02:49, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't mention that. I thought it is common knowledge that these cables/adapters fit on other consoles, too. IIRC the Atari VCS 2600 just had a simple cable, one side with that cinch (RCA) jack, and the other side with the fitting TV jack. My MD I had not much more, a small box with a switch to select for TV or console. The NES' adaptor is a bit more advanced, IIRC it mixes the signals. --32X 21:02, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No sources

There's no sources on this article. For as much content as there is here, I'm a little surprised. Red Phoenix (Talk) 23:14, 28 March 2008 (UTC)