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[edit] Sam Dillemans

Hi, as you will see I have moved the article to the correct format of his surname. I have also added the "In Use" tag as the article needs some work on it to correct the grammar etc. I would be grateful if you would hold back from editing the article just for now and let me clean it up. Once I have removed the "In use" tag I will let you know.♦Tangerines♦·Talk 15:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

With regard to the books you added, I have now altered the book by Jon Thompson into English as they should be on the English language wikipedia.

These though, I cannot find anywhere -

  • De Boeck, H. & Moonen, C., Het kunstwerk op zichzelf, in X (ed.), Catalogus Ithaka 2001, Leuven, Kultuurraad der Leuvense studenten, 2001.
  • November, H., Sam Dillemans - De frustratie als motivatie, in Ibidem.

Do you have a translation for all or part of these? ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 15:33, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for checking this article. The two articles above were published in a catalogue. It is in dutch. Do I have to translate the title into english? About the importance of that painter. Everybody in the artscene knows him in Belgium en he is considerd together with Michael Borremans, Luc Tuymans and Fred Bervoets as the four most important painters in Belgium. I don't think a citation is needed. People in Belgium will easily agree.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Vancouverart (talk • contribs) 17:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Please note, citations are always required, per WP:V. freshacconcispeaktome 16:33, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
I am historian. Sometimes you just can't find citations and it is NOT needed always. It is about an assassment of todays society. An artist who has got a lot of media attention and who is known for avarage Belgians, is quite important. Do you need a citation to proof that president Bush is a known figure in the states. Where do you would seek such statement? You will probably not find a citation to proof this. But it remains a fact thet Bush is a known figure.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Vancouverart (talk • contribs) 17:58, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
I have found a few sources now, some of which I have had to translate from Dutch (so I could read them) and then use them in the article. With regard to the other two books, no the titles don't need translating, I will though add that they are in dutch. With regard to his "importance" I think perhaps you have maybe misunderstood what is meant by "citation". It might help therefore if you have a read of some articles such as WP:CITE, WP:VER, WP:HOW. Have fun, and I will be removing the in use tag soon. If you know of any further English language online sources that can be used let me know and I can add them too if you wish.♦Tangerines♦·Talk 17:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I will. Thanks for everthing!!!!!!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Vancouverart (talk • contribs) 17:38, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

No worries, glad to help. I have tried translating this, "De frustratie als motivatie" is this more or less correct - The frustration as a motivation ? Also, "Het kunstwerk op zichzelf" i get as "The art work on itself" ? This is not to replace the content just for it to be added after it as a translation, which I have done now, but if it isn't fully correct I can amend it. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 17:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Just to add that I have removed the "in use" tag for now! If you have a look at the article in "edit" mode, you will see that there are two points where there is "hidden text" which is all in CAPITALS. This ie because the content needs clarifying. It is self-explanatory in each case, for instance clarifying which university and some full names. I have added some more sources, (some in Flemish and Dutch) and added another book.♦Tangerines♦·Talk 18:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes these a good translations! Personally I would not set the two other articles under catalogue, because it is not a catalogue of work of Sam Dillemans. But in the catalogue there were articles published about Sam Dillemans because he was supervising and making the selection for the exhibition. I would publish it under literature or something. Thanks for ading more info. I will take a look at that edit mode.

Roger Dillemans was chancellor of the flemish part of the universy. The other (french part) is in another town called Louvain-la-neuve "the new Leuven". So the original university of Leuven is the flemish one. Is it possible in wikipedia to refer to "Katholieke Universiteit Leuven" with the words university of Leuven. Because that is correct. There is only one university in Leuven. The name would also be english then.

Yes there is an article on the Flemish university, Katholieke Universiteit Leuven, so that will be the correct one then!♦Tangerines♦·Talk 19:35, 5 March 2008 (UTC)