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[edit] When is a neighbourhood not a neighbourhood?

Hmm. When it's hyphenated I suppose. e.g. Dunbar-Southlands, which is two very different neighbourhoods but lumped together here as an "official" city neighbourhood; didn't check for "Alma" but it should be there....hmmm Mosquito Flats the city's marketing department got rid of a long time ago. I'll have to look at the list a little closer; but I do have my reservations about following city neighbourhood boundaries, which are bureaucratic creations which, as in Dunbar-Southlands, tie together two very different districts; I wouldn't consider someone living south of 41st, or 45th anyway, as being part of "Dunbar"; more like Southwest Marine Drive; and Southlands is ONLY the flat area south of the golf courses. Is Musqueam listed, btw?Skookum1 06:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree, but for simplicity's sake we should probably stick to the City of Vancouver's official neighbourhoods map. That's what I think anyway, as they define the boundaries very clearly. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 07:10, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

What about dead neighbourhoods? I was surprised to read the article on Little Italy saying that it no longer existed. That got me to thinking about other neighbourhoods that have either disappeared through metamorphosis, migration, or destruction by "the man." I added Hogan's Alley to the list, and would love to know what the heck Mosquito Flats refers to. Japantown aint what it was before the war, but that's covered. So my question is: should these be categorized separately somehow, or just integrated into what's already here?Bobanny 04:03, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] South Main

I'd like to contest the inclusion of South Main as an area on the VancouverNeighbourhoods template. Speaking as someone who actually lives in the neighbourhood, I can tell you that no one refers to it with that name - it is only a marketing gimmick, and as such does not deserve recoginition in this template. The irony is, it's not even in the south of Main area, it's more like middle Main, but that's besides the point... it is a name recently created by entrepreneurs, and perhaps deserves an article (that is questionable) but definitely not official recognition. Themindset 05:00, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

I share your cynicism, but don't think south main is particularly exceptional. Shaughnessy was entirely a creation of the CPR to make money, but its still a geographic entity, and even Commercial Drive is called that for a reason. That said, I'm not stuck on the issue. Perhaps we should probably work to some kind of consensus for categorizing neighbourhoods, since others on wikivan have commented on the issue for various areas. I don't think authentic versus inauthentic works though, since even dubious neighbourhoods have currency and need to be listed. Also note that the template has "main" neighbourhoods and "other areas" I believe because it was decided to defer to city hall for official recognition.Bobanny 06:55, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

True, authenticity of origin is not critical, but currency is. And, currently, SoMa or (South Main) is not used by residents of the area, and it's basically a neogistic geographic term. Perhaps if the name existed for 5+ years and was used by people in the area it should be listed - but I think for now it shouldn't. Themindset 16:53, 24 September 2006 (UTC)