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[edit] Vanity Furniture
Golly, I wrote the definition for the piece of furniture. But as it stands, it just looks like a dictionary definition. Is there more to be said for it, such as the history or other noteworthy aspects? Even an image would help. If not, perhaps it should just be deleted. —Frecklefoot 19:50, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)
You were going to make an encyclopedic entry for the thing you shave in front of in the morning? OK, I get it, I think...
[edit] Character trait
What about an entry as Vanity as a character trait? 71.65.54.92 21:28, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
You can find the vanity as a character trait on wiktionary Optimix 17:44, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] No reference to "Meaninglessness"
I am no expert in this area, but I feel there is a whole lot missing from this article. Shouldn't there at least be some reference to the idea of "meaninglessness"? In my opinion all the present connotations of vanity (that are dealt with extensively in this article, the idea of excessive narcisstic self-belief) arose from the fact that to an outside observer these people are grasping at nothingness, that in the end (with respect to the greater world, and the eventual death of the individuals)what they care about (i.e. themselves) do not truly "matter"; their concerns are trivial and completely "meaningless" in the long-run. So there should be some sort of reference (even a single word would be fine)in the article relating vanity to the idea of "meaninglessness".
Agreed. The quote from Ecclesiates is entirely out of context. The Hebrew word translated as vanity in Ecclesiastes is hevel, is literally breath, or breeze, metaphorically coupled with the phrase "striving after the wind". It is interpreted as "meaningless", "useless", "fruitless" or as expressed in this article "vanity", as in, "He attempted in vain to save her life." In this sense vanity does not mean arrogance or pride.
[edit] Nietzsche and vanity
From the Wiki article on Vanity:
- Vanity (compare Pride) is the excessive belief in one's own abilities or attractiveness to others. [NOTE: in the article on Pride, pride is equated with vanity and arrogance, at least in a Christian perspective]
- Friedrich Nietzsche wrote that "vanity is the fear of appearing original: it is thus a lack of pride, but not necessarily a lack of originality."
The two definitions are obviously antithetic: pride (1.) vs. lack of pride (2.).
A comment should be added to the main article underlining, and if possible trying to explain this antithesis.
--Miguel de Servet 13:35, 30 June 2006 (UTC) hello
true. also, "emptiness", though it might not be directly connected to pride, but there is some belief that emptiness emerges from stolen or hurt pride. I wish that we would open a discussion about this topic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Silenced121 (talk • contribs) 18:10, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
