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[edit] Biography of Vandana Shiva

I would like to see a biography of her. Especially of her academic backround. - Cbddoughboy

-- Me too, I just removed the part claiming she was a physicist since there doesnt seem to be any evidence of her either having a physics related degree, or doing any research involving physics - GordonRoss 09:12, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

She's actually received a PhD in Quantum Physics from the University of Western Ontario. Gobonobo 01:32, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism

I'm all for Shiva's work and biodiversity, and I strongly dislike Monsanto-style corporations, but I recently saw a clearly pro-Shiva documentary, that was honest enough to show the people who criticize her (not so much her goals as her techniques and her flamboyant selfpresentation). Should we add a small paragraph on criticism against her?

I agree, but I won't be the one to do it. I will never touch another Shiva book as long as I live. I had to read Water Wars and Stolen Harvest for an economics class (that I should have dropped). Shiva comes off as a conspiracy theorist and a polemic. I'm better at biology than I am at economics and I can safely say after reading Stolen Harvest that, when she writes about genetic engineering and genetically modified foods, she has no idea what she is talking about. Fishyfred 06:58, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay... take a deep breath. I've calmed down and scanned the article, and the External links section contains several critical links. I think the thing to do is separate those into "Pro-Shiva" and "Anti-Shiva" links.Fishyfred 01:57, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

I think you really need to relax. I recently saw a documentary on Channel 4 which clearly did not want to take a stand on Genetic engineering. They had a "babe" as the spokeswoman for GE and a rustic boring man against GE. It was pretty obvious what was the hidden agenda. There was a debate between the two(which seemed so artificially civil). The lady was trying to convince us that GE is natural by giving the example of the backyard of the house in which the program was being shot. She goes on to tell us "when our backyard and this landscape is not natural then why are we afraid of GE".

Sounds very convincing(to you maybe) but many don't see that she is comparing the wrong things. She is not supposed to compare a backyard in a city which is landscaped with artificial plants but rather the Amazon rain forest, the Western ghats and Himalayas in India and many other natural vegetations around th world.

GE talks about making tomatoes with more protein and but I have yet to see something beneficial. They are lying on our faces and we are not seeing it. They are holding the carrot in front of us and then feeding us crap. They tell us that GE is capable of ending world hunger or producing fruits and vegetable with more nutrition but all we see is "round-up" resistant soy, seedless fruits. They are saving us from the misery of spitting the seed out when we are eating fruit.

It definitely is a conspiracy. Just because the Holocaust denier and 9/11 truthers out there are lunatics doesn't mean that a conspiracy does not exist at all. There is a conspiracy in producing seedless fruits. It pretty pretty pretty obvious. The farmer has to come back to buy the seeds. He can never be self sufficient. The same way the producer of GE salmon are producing sterile salmon. They are trying to project it as a solutions to these GE salmon escaping farms and mingling with the wild salmon. But the truth which is again obvious is that they would not want the salmon to reproduce or else they would have to close down.

I think Fishyfred is having a biased and ignorant POV on the is whole matter and on Vandana Shiva. So please refrain from editing this section and someone keep a watch. This page could be vandalized(no pun intended) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.167.24.98 (talk) 15:20, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Dissent is not the same thing as bias. Unsigned user, your comments seem more biased than Fishyfred's. If you're so concerned about protecting Vandana Shiva's reputation from the tarnish of well-founded criticism, then you can go ahead and keep a watch on this page. You may also want to have another look at the standard definition of the word 'conspiracy' before you continue to throw it around so freely. 140.160.11.156 (talk) 07:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)