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To-do list for Van Tuong Nguyen:
  • Pleas for Clemency from UN and their response
  • Pleas for Clemency from the Pope and their response
  • Proposal by some Australian politicians for economic sanctions
  • Coverage of the issue by Singapore media
  • Dissent in Australian parliament about pleas for clemency
  • Dissent in Queensland parliament following minute of silent
  • The firm resolve of the Singapore Parliament to make an example of this case as a warning to othersSoftgrow 05:50, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
  • The acceptance by international travellers of the laws of any country they are visiting

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Archive 1 (2005)

[edit] air route denial

I don't think the "air route denial" is relevant to this article. As far as I know, both Austrialia and Singapore governments did not link the rejection to Nguyen's case. The rejection is not a consequence of the execution, but a decision to protect Qantas. --Vsion 16:31, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Item 3 of the to do list is the "Proposal by some Australian politicians for economic sanctions". Prior to the execution some politicians (non-government I think) proposed a direct link between the air route and the negotiations over clemency. The original comments made in parliament haven't made the article but the subsequent stance of the government have. Softgrow 20:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I've added a note about Bruce Baird under Pleas for Clemency. Softgrow 21:01, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the infor., Baird's statement is certainly relevant, especially coming from the Liberal Party, I wasn't aware of it until now. --Vsion 03:12, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't think Baird was the first though. I thought some Federal senators suggested it first. At some stage I need to go through the to do list and fill in the gaps. Softgrow 03:24, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Caleb Nguyen?

Is it appropriate to redirect this name to the article?--Tdxiang 陈 鼎 翔 (Talk) Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 05:09, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it is appopriate. For example Tony Blair has a redirect from Bliar. --
No. Catholics do not refer to themselves using the Baptised name. Bliar isn't a Baptised name, and I don't think we should even be giving redirects for typos. Kransky 15:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Terence Ong 04:25, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Kransky, Bliar isn't a typo, it's a neologism of Blair's name due to the fact he lied to his people to get them into an illegal invasion of the midle east. It's a very common taxonomy applied to him. Jachin 01:53, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Appeals for clemency

didn't Helen Clarke appeal for clemency when she went to Singapore, i remember her being on TV saying that she doesn't support people being executed and that she would appeal to the President when she visited... i really remember this!! lolAustralian Jezza 02:21, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Probably since she is really anti death penalty. Also its spelt Clark

I think the majority of the world is anti-killing, as a whole. Clark being 'really anti death penalty' isn't that relevant for her plea for clemency. It's a minority of countries and people who encourage such behaviour, and will eventually be phased out as education increases due to a better understanding of social ecology and the fact that killing is, under all circumstances, an inappropriate punishment. Jachin 01:56, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Is it important that the judgment on the appeal did not address all issues in the appeal? Someone deleted this from the story but it seems relevant. I am concerned that the article is misleading on the nature of the appeal and its rejection without this section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.169.34.18 (talk) 09:44, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Confusing wording

"After his brother Khoa got into legal trouble, Nguyen wound up the business."

What's this suppose to mean? Closed the business or got the business? Anyone that's more familiar with this person please clear this up.

```` LRguy, 24 June 2007