Talk:Van 't Kruijs Opening

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[edit] Old talk

Also Van't Kruys... Really? From a Dutch POV, this is a blatant misspelling ("van 't Kruys", mind the space, is plausible given the multiple ways of spelling the IJ even in Dutch, but not without the space). If English really uses this a lot, it's of course worth a mention... but since the opening was named after van 't Kruijs, I'm sceptical. JRM · Talk 21:20, 2005 May 18 (UTC)


It is spelled "Van't Kruys" in at least two books I checked - MCO 10 & 12 and "Chess Openings" Theory and Practice" by Horowitz. Granted, it may be wrong, but some books use it. Bubba73


Ugh. Horrible. Unfortunately we can't devote a significant part of the article to how repugnantly wrong this is... The 't is not a clitic. Oh well. When in Rome... JRM · Talk 23:20, 2005 May 18 (UTC)


It is also that way in "500 Master Games of Chess" by Tartakover and Du Mont (no space after "Van"). We Americans don't know much about European things, but it is that way in those 3 books (2 editions of one of them), and I double checked and there was no space where it should be. Note that these are older books (23+ years). The opening isn't listed in MCO 13 and I don't have MCO 14. Bubba73


It is fine to move pages, but remember to fix any double redirects made in the process. Sjakkalle 06:31, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure there were none at the time I moved it, only single redirects. Granted, I was too lazy to go and fix all of those. JRM · Talk 08:11, 2005 May 19 (UTC)

[edit] Maarten van 't Kruijs birth year

An anon changed Maarten van 't Kruijs birth year from 1811 to 1813. I just double checked Oxford Companion to Chess and it says 1811. That's the source I originally used for the date, but the same anon fixed a date I botched in Hungarian Defense that I had copied incorrectly from the same source, so I'm not sure. Does anyone know for sure? Quale 20:13, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't know for sure, but this Dutch chess website says 1813. Kripkenstein τ κ