Talk:Value (personal and cultural)
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this page needs a lot of work to get it up to speed. Please help. Dullfig 18:41, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
This article uses "value" in the definition of "value". That begs the question: what are values in the first place? A definition that goes beyond what is found in wikidictionary would make for a much better start to the article. The German wikipedia entry for values is helpful. It begins: "Man versteht darunter vor allem die Grundsätze, nach denen eine Gesellschaft oder eine Gruppe von Menschen ihr Zusammenleben richtet oder richten will" [values are understood as the principles around which a society or group of individuals orient (or want to orient] their cohabitation." 82.83.39.180 10:26, 24 May 2007 (UTC)Scott Stock Gissendanner
- Then it looks like principle is a synonym for value, and the question becomes: what is a principle? I agree though that the intro needs to be rewritten. –Pomte 17:17, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] NPOV Trouble
The section marked 'Cultural values' is heavily biased in favor of a left-wing perspective, from my point of view. I added a totally disputed template to that section because of that, however I would like others to check it over and edit it so that it doesn't lean heavily towards one side or the other. If it isn't left-wing, and I recognize the fact that it may be not, it definitely does not follow NPOV guidelines-there is a definite opinion in the text. Thanks. Secos5 13:10, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] More content needed
This article needs more content. It might be more fruitful to bring out a motivating point, namely that our values inform our motives, which cause our actions in daily life, in our social interactions, in our community. The sum of these individual actions can be seen in the larger society, which is us writ large.
Our individual actions result from our values.
Example: the values of thrift and industry were very well inculcated in many societies up through the nineteenth century. You cannot say this is true today. How did these values get lost? They were destroyed, in Germany for example, by the hyperinflation of the 1920s which utterly ruined the savings of the people, and indirectly led to World War II. To this day, Germany practices strict inflation control.
Example: military heroism was a noble thing until machine guns made horse calvary charges ludicrous, as recently as the eve of World War II. Now the ability to bring energy to bear on the target is what wins battles, not heroism.
Example: those of us who contribute to this encyclopedia do so for our own reasons (individual and personal values).
Example: the human condition can be viewed as one's individual character. For example, in a massacre of the innocents, what might be the causes? The fear that a rival might take a kingdom? Revenge? Stupidity? Cruelty? Fear? Certainly in such a massacre one might ascribe these motives. Now examine the executives of a massacre; might they be viewed as merely doing their duty?
We might add more examples, which might also help this article.
--Ancheta Wis 11:05, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Personal values describe statements that are assumed to be true for a given set of |Fiftyfourforty]] 00:10, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Redirect from "value"
The redirect template at the top of the page says that "'Value' redirects here. It does not. Could someone either change the template, or actually redirect 'Value' to this page? I don't pretend to know which would be better, but it is currently misleading. - Yug Pah Yug (talk) 02:41, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
