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Contents 1 Cabins 2 State Park 3 Split? 4 Graffiti 5 Unquoted and unsourced copying 6 Copyvio Investigation 7 Congress

[edit] Cabins

Recreation of a cabin in which soldiers would have lived at Valley Forge. 

Revolutionary War memorial at Valley Forge. A statue of Anthony Wayne at Valley ForgeValley Forge was the site of the camp of the American Continental Army over the winter of 1777–1778 in the American Revolutionary War. This was a time of great suffering for George Washington's army—but also a time of retraining and rejuvenation.

Valley forge is a great place to remember. Yes, it was a time of suffering for George Washington, but at the same time it was all worth it at the end. December 1777 was a harsh time, the soldiers were cold and hungry, but in my opinion we had a fine army full of confidence.

[edit] State Park

It would be nice to mention the PA state park that turned into the national park in 1976.--J Clear 03:10, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Split?

At some point it will likely make sense to split the park info into a new article. Leave the historical events of 1777-78 and its historical implications here.--J Clear 03:10, 12 September 2006 (UTC) I agree. I think the split should be Valley Forge National Historical Park. --evrik 18:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Graffiti

There has been some graffiti on this article; is there anyone who can clean it up? 63.229.196.75 15:21, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

    -I'm cleaning it up little by little.  Maybe seek out someone to reprimand the vandal.  Oglahai 04:13, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unquoted and unsourced copying

I was suspicious about the tone of some sections of this article, particular those involving von Steuben. A quick google search reveals this source -- this is almost certainly a case of plagiarism. See here.

The working is shifted around slightly, but conduct like this does not belong on Wikipedia. I'm trying to determine the correct procedure for this.

This edit is very suspicious, and it appears to be the source of much of the plagiarized content. 128.135.224.25 07:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

The content on revolutionaryday.com appears to have come from the National Park Service making it public domain.--J Clear 14:57, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Just because it's public domain doesn't mean you can copy it verbatim. It still needs to be cited and rewritten. Plagiarism is still plaigirism, even if you're plaigirising the government. phbbt107 01:52, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually it does. That's the point of it being public domain. It is however cited in the article. Garion96 (talk) 01:57, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

It might just be me, but this article is quite awkward in its wording. It might be a good idea for someone to go through the rewrite it. Also, making it sound slightly less like a bad historical novel would be a bonus! Padsley (talk) 12:50, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvio Investigation

Much of this articles text was an exact or close match to a website noted above. An admin removed it as a potential copyright infringement. Further investigation showed that at least some of the text was from the National Park Service web site, which would be public domain. The admin (see the delete log) is investigating the rest.

Before editing this article consider that much of what's missing may be restored shortly and major changes at this juncture will impact the restoration process to some extent. --J Clear 01:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Text has been restored. Happy editing. --J Clear 12:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congress

Congress had the resources available and could have sent a train of wagons full of food and clothing to George Washington and his men. They thought Washington was exaggerating the situation. They did print and send a large amount of paper money to Washington. Unfortunately, both the British and the American army had been in the area and had both taken all they could from stores. The money was worthless with nothing to buy. Later, Congress sent a handful of people to see how Washington's army was doing and found he was right about the condition of the army.