Talk:Vale Inco Limited

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The Human Rights section needs several references. The editors of this page need to learn that scientific writing requires referencing of data and arguments that are not common sense. You cannot use words like hundreds or thousands of meters cubed, these are too vague and not reliable. Where do these numbers come from? This article is suffering from the effect of people directly related to the facts writing the article. Articles in Wikipedia should be written by third parties, without bias to the issue.24.141.117.236 20:40, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Human Rights Abuses???

These are unverified and hence deleted.

Inco is trying to build a high pressure acid leaching (HPAL) plant at Goro village in New Caledonia. The plant plans to dump heavy metal containing waste into the lagoon for 28 years. The proposed effluent contains manganese and other contaminants above legal limits.

Manganese is not a "heavy" metal, however the local authorities have requested the mine build a polishing plant to reduce the Mg levels to below that of total solid and dissolved content.

The project will also dump solid heavy metal waste in a pit situated on a seismic fault above the water table of Goro village.

Goro village is nowhere near the location of the solid waste tailings dam. Their may be a "fault" but the water table at Goro Village is not associated with it.

On the 21st of November 2006 a Paris court ordered that Inco should stop destroying a forest at Kwé west where the waste tip is being dug. Inco is continuing to clear the land regardless.

Since France allowed New Calendonia to pursue internal affairs (except security) independant of "Paris", this is irrelevant and not notable.

In June 2006 the indigenous group Rheebu Nuu took Inco to court. The administrative tribunal revoked Inco's operating licence on the grounds of environmental damage. Inco has continued to build its plant despite the court verdict.

You might want to google "Rheebu Nuu" and see what pops up. What "Administrative Tribuanl"??? Goro Nickel (only part owned by Inco) still has a construction and operating license. It has not been revoked.

Sixteen indigenous militants have been prosecuted for damaging Inco property in April at the Goro site. They defended themselves by claiming "legitimate defence" and citing their constitutional right to a clean environment. They were acquitted.

These would be members of "Rheebu Nuu". They have not been aquitted but released pending trail.

Inco's New Caledonia plant houses hundreds of armed soldiers with armoured vehicles. These soldiers have French army uniforms and are paid by the French government but their barracks is within Inco's construction site. Inco contributes to the cost of housing these soldiers and allows them to use Inco vehicles for patrols in surrounding indigenous areas.\

If you know anything about New Calendonia, you would realise that the agreement with France has all security under French authority. Hence all local security and police are French. Hence the paramilitaries operating against anti-french forces were "french army uniforms". The Cost of housing "soldiers" is actually part of the permit. Shot info 07:30, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Human Rights rewritten

The section that has been reinserted will be rewritten to reflect the reference. At the moment, the paragraph retained makes assertions that need verificiation per WP:V. Moral is, if you have a notable reference (see WP:N) please add it. Shot info 02:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I notice that the unverified information about Inco's abuses has been reinserted, again without any vertified sources. I strongly suggest the editor located in NewCal 203.147.77.73 reads WP:V before he/she makes any further reverts.

[edit] Project Manhattan

Stevens Institute of Technology states:

“ During the Manhattan Project, the International Nickel Company, under the direction of president Charles Stanley (M.E., 1943) developed the ultra-pure nickel that was used to fabricate diffusion barriers used in the gaseous isotope diffusion separation process at Los Alamos which produced the uranium-235 used in the Hiroshima atomic bomb. ”

Which is a copy of the stevens wiki; I've not been able to find any sources to back this up. Any ideas? John Vandenberg 04:56, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Basically this is unverifiable. I recommend that a {{fact}} (see WP:REF) is placed on it. I can do this if you would like? Shot info 05:46, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I was hoping that someone here would point out that there were two companies of the same name, or some other reason why I may have been unable to find a source. Anyway, I've liberally sprinkled Stevens Institute of Technology with {{cn}} to point out the parts that need sources. John Vandenberg 03:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Move to Vale Inco Limited

CVRD (which announced It is changing it's name to Vale) has announced it has renamed CVRD Inco to Vale Inco Limited. I have moved the CVRD Inco article, and fixed a few of the double redirects, more work to be done I am sure.--Kelapstick (talk) 17:42, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Logos

While the current logo at least captures Vale's new image, hopefully it's only temporary. First of all, with regards to Vale do Rio Doce.jpg, I don't think that there's a gradient in the stylized V graphic; it's just a solid colour. Moreover, the logo that uses the subsidiary name ("VALE INCO") should probably be used rather than that of the parent company. The image on Vale Inco's front page would be functional in that regard, but it's only 180x60. --Scani 14:58, 1 December 2007 (UTC)