Talk:Val Valentino

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Navy.enthusiast (talk) 00:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

This entire article reads like a Val Valentino press release. There is no mention of the controversy surrounding his exposure of magic tricks. --Jamiem 02:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Articles for Deletion debate 2 Unencyclopedic article 3 BLP 4 So what's his name? 5 You guys make me laugh

[edit] Articles for Deletion debate

This article survived an Articles for Deletion debate. The discussion can be found here. -Splash^talk 16:59, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unencyclopedic article

I placed the "tone" tag on this article, as it bears little resemblance to an encyclopedic article. A few of phrases desparately need to be changed; examples include "fend off the bullies that roamed his neighborhood" (really? they just patrolled the streets, looking for people to beat up?); "becoming the Masked Magician put a kibosh on that dream" (this might be the only WP article to use the word "kibosh"); and "By the time the 1980s ended and the 1990s rolled around" (no explanation needed). In addition, the "Later career" section is so POV that it might as well be removed altogether. The "Filmography" also must be changed to reflect the fact that he made guest appearances on these shows; it's not as if Valentino was on "Regis and Kathie Lee" every week. Overall, this article could certainly be salvaged, but not without some work. -- Kicking222 14:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

"Val among them. Although he initially turned the network down, Fox was willing to negotiate, and Val eventually signed, promising that he would only reveal the secrets behind old illusions. However, when the programs aired, many newer illusions were also revealed." What does that mean? Was he, or was he not the one who revealed those "newer illusions" to FOX in the first place? --Wolf530 (talk) 17:31, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BLP

Removed uncited death threat comments. I couldn't find supporting evidence either. Sundaybrunch 17:12, 4 April 2007 (UTC) Also removed later uncited "later career" section and other uncited parts. They can be readded by someone who has reliable citations. Sundaybrunch 17:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I wondered where the rest of the article went...and I thought it was just because of the people who bitched that it sounded a press release.

You guys know that Val hates this page, right? He's asked various people to change it for him, but most people don't want to get embroiled in the battles that occur on this site.

[edit] So what's his name?

Val Valentino, Leonard Montano, Masked Magician? He's born Leonard Monatano, then his first stage name was Val Valentino, and another one is Masked Magician? Or is his real name now Val Valentino? That's how I interpret the article, but it sounds a lot more like a stage name so I wonder... 84.217.137.13 22:50, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

His real name is Val Valentino. I just saw him on a brazilian tv show and that's what he said when he was asked what his real name was. :)

Yeah, but no one believes that it is, because they're all too lazy to get off their asses and research whether or not there was actually a name change. As to what his stage name is, he used to go by "Valentino" before the specials and for a little bit after, but he apparently fell in love with the persona, because his website and his MySpace are all "Masked Magician" and very little to do with "Valentino". That reminds me...today's date is Sunday, October 7, 2007. I'm marking the date because I want to see how long it takes you assholes to take down the link to his MySpace profile because there's no certificate of authenticity or notary-sealed document proving that the profile really is his. (There's a link to the profile on his official site, but knowing all of you, you'll find a way to discredit it. Which reminds me...why are you letting the link for the official site stay on? No one can prove that it's really his!)

[edit] You guys make me laugh

You know, I find it interesting that you guys used to argue about the verifiability of the copy that DRyelle wrote for this page until you were blue in the fingertips; yet when she managed to get the same article published on IMDb.com, you used it to cite this article!

Anyone care to explain that to me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.229.225.220 (talk) 00:54, 8 October 2007 (UTC)