Template talk:Vague
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[edit] Wikiproject Inline templates proposed
Resolved. Project now active, at WP:WPILT.Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Inline templates. I've been meaning to do this for a while. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 16:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mouseover sometimes fails
Mention the cases when the mouseover part will not show the message one intends, and instead just e.g., "see the sytle manual". Jidanni 18:48, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
- Huh? That appears to be phrased as a directive to change the documenation, but I can't make heads or tails of what you've said here. I've never seen this or any other template say "see the style manual". — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 19:43, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
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- I'm also not sure what this is referring to. This template is unlike most of the others of this sort in that it allows an optional parameter to add descriptive text in the popup after the default, "You can help --". That text doesn't make alot of sense if there is nothing in the parameter to go after it. Maybe that's the issue? --CBD 00:14, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- Sounds plausible, and warrants further testing. I can definitely confirm that the tooltip of the rendered example in the documentation does not work (in Safari browser under MacOS X). — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 05:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, can you be more specific? The template results appear on Template:Vague twice. The top instance is the code itself and thus has no parameter value set and, for me, shows a tooltip of "You can help --". The lower instance has the parameter set and shows "You can help -- optional message to be displayed on mouseover". Are you getting something different? If so then it would seem to be a browser specific problem. If not, then those results are how the template was always designed to function (even before implementation of 'fix-inline'). --CBD 14:04, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- I mean the example in the "Usage" section; the template itself at the top isn't an "example in the documentation". :-) I get the "Wikipedia:Manual of Style" tooltip that the Mediawiki software autoassigns to the links, in both cases. I think that something is "wrong" with the {{fix}} or {{fix-inline}} code, or rather that it is not robust enough in some small way to anticipate and handle what {{vague}} is doing. While this does seem to have some sort of browser-specific nature, it is still something to do with a) exactly how this template's code is doing the tooltip, and fix/fix-inline's parsing of what this template is doing, because the issue does not arise with {{fact}} or any of the other inline templates that use fix/fix-inline tooltip feature in the "normal" way. Logic tells me that the unusual thing that {{vague}} is doing is resulting in rendered code that, unlike the "normal" fact-style usage's output, is parseable properly by some browsers but not by others. It will probably take some "View source" examination of the differences between the output. I can't think of any other explanation. My further suspicion is that the WikiMedia code auto-tooltips regardless, and that for whatever reason this template's tooltip output is being overridden by MediWiki's default tooltip, and that this is not happening with {{fact}} etc. I can't presently think of a reason why that would happen. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 17:31, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- The template tooltip appears as you hover over the brackets; the link has its own tooltip that overrides the title of the box. Yecril 21:09, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
- I mean the example in the "Usage" section; the template itself at the top isn't an "example in the documentation". :-) I get the "Wikipedia:Manual of Style" tooltip that the Mediawiki software autoassigns to the links, in both cases. I think that something is "wrong" with the {{fix}} or {{fix-inline}} code, or rather that it is not robust enough in some small way to anticipate and handle what {{vague}} is doing. While this does seem to have some sort of browser-specific nature, it is still something to do with a) exactly how this template's code is doing the tooltip, and fix/fix-inline's parsing of what this template is doing, because the issue does not arise with {{fact}} or any of the other inline templates that use fix/fix-inline tooltip feature in the "normal" way. Logic tells me that the unusual thing that {{vague}} is doing is resulting in rendered code that, unlike the "normal" fact-style usage's output, is parseable properly by some browsers but not by others. It will probably take some "View source" examination of the differences between the output. I can't think of any other explanation. My further suspicion is that the WikiMedia code auto-tooltips regardless, and that for whatever reason this template's tooltip output is being overridden by MediWiki's default tooltip, and that this is not happening with {{fact}} etc. I can't presently think of a reason why that would happen. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 17:31, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, can you be more specific? The template results appear on Template:Vague twice. The top instance is the code itself and thus has no parameter value set and, for me, shows a tooltip of "You can help --". The lower instance has the parameter set and shows "You can help -- optional message to be displayed on mouseover". Are you getting something different? If so then it would seem to be a browser specific problem. If not, then those results are how the template was always designed to function (even before implementation of 'fix-inline'). --CBD 14:04, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- Sounds plausible, and warrants further testing. I can definitely confirm that the tooltip of the rendered example in the documentation does not work (in Safari browser under MacOS X). — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 05:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- I'm also not sure what this is referring to. This template is unlike most of the others of this sort in that it allows an optional parameter to add descriptive text in the popup after the default, "You can help --". That text doesn't make alot of sense if there is nothing in the parameter to go after it. Maybe that's the issue? --CBD 00:14, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merge tag seen on every use of template
Looks awful and confusing as often cuts lines up mid-sentence. Anything that can be done? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.181.49 (talk) 17:25, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
