Talk:Vaginal lubrication

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I can't help but notice that vaginal lubrication contains pyridine... if you look under that article, it says that pyridine is a toxic carcinogen. Is this accurate? - Shipton (not signed in)


"Under perfect conditions a highly aroused young woman will lubricate profusely."

Am I the only one thinking this section needs a picture? TheHungryTiger 13:49, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

"Am I the only one thinking this section needs a picture? TheHungryTiger 13:49, 24 December 2005 (UTC)" - No i think it needs pictures too. --not signed in for reasons of anonminity.

Must it be a young woman? just a curious point. Goodralph 19:55, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

No, but youth may be considered one of the `conditions'. Youth only constricts the definition, so `young' is not incorrect; nor is `old women'. I would assume you could safely change it to just `women' and it should still work.--Capi crimm 20:01, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Cut...

However, Discovery Health[1] notes that... "Women sometimes worry that their genitals will have an unpleasant odor or that there may be germs on their genitals which would be passed on to their partners. (...) As far as transmission of germs or disease, cunnilingus between healthy, disease-free people is entirely safe and clean."

because of the `disease-free' part. If you want it back in remove the `However', since it only agrees with the previous statement. Also note it is self-evident. That being it says... `If you are disease free you cannot transmit diseases'. Also you can transmit germs, just not ones that cause disease since you don't have a disease. As for safe and clean, safe depends on the situation. Cunnilingus while skydiving or driving may not be a `safe' idea. It can also be quite messy.--Capi crimm 20:01, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

It's not as tautological as it sounds. For example, analingus between healthy people can potentially cause disease because flora that are healthy symbiotes in the colon can be disease agents in the throat.--(Sebbo the Unregistered User)151.203.127.125 01:36, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clarification needed

Vaginal dryness is the condition where this lubrication is insufficient.

Does this mean that the compound does not work the way it should, or that there isn't enough of it? --Merovingian 03:14, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

omg lmao

here's a tip:

Despite popular belief it is possible to get or give a sexually transmitted disease to another person through cunnilingus or felatio. ya i know that's probably not spelled correcty. As an example: if an individual who is disease free goes down on someone who has AIDS, the person going down can get AIDS by doing so. It can also be transmitted in the opposite way as well. I think most people think that oral sex is safe and you can't get diseases in this way, but this is not the case.

Wow. What an inspiring entry.
Yes, it is possible to contract STIs through oral-genital contact. I'm not so sure it's a "popular belief" that oral sex makes you immune, and if it is, then I hope we make some worldwide educational changes to dispel that belief.
But that's why God invented condoms and dental dams. --Kuronekoyama 20:49, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] An amusing side-note....

http://sexcausescancer.ytmnsfw.com/ (Warning, may be considered NSFW)

Some YTMNDer and Wikipedian has reached a rather worrying conclusion about Vaginal lubrication and Pyridine... I'll quote both articles here if you don't want to go to YTMND.

From Pyridine:

Pyridine is a clear liquid with an odor that is sour, putrid, and fish-like.... Pyridine is a harmful substance if inhaled, ingested or absorbed through skin, it is known to reduce male fertility and is considered carcinogenic as well.

From Vaginal Lubrication:

The lubrication fluid contains water, pyridine, squalene...

Shouldn't this be worrying? AKismet 04:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


err, vandalism just after composition.???? mike

[edit] TSS?

What does Toxic Shock Syndrome have to do with this article? I read that one, but don't see anything related there. 207.237.193.23 07:29, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

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I don't know if the picture is particularly useful - the shine that could be attributed to vaginal lubrication may also be the result of piercing. There's a lot of vagina, but not much lubrication. Plus, the person who uploaded it, there sole actions on wikipedia have been to upload and display images. I also think there's better ones, like Image:Vulva labeled.jpg, though even that one isn't incredibly clear - lubrication is a texture thing, not visual. At the minimum, it doesn't have the distracting piercing. WLU 17:17, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pyridine

Many editors and readers on Wikipedia are concerned the statement about pyridine being a natural constituent of vaginal secretion. The original source of this information about vaginal secretion and pyridine is Dr. Paul Spinrad, a physiologist who wrote in detail on the subject in his book The RE/Search Guide to Bodily Fluids during the late 1990s. Yes pyridine is highly toxic and is a suspected carcinogen, but methanethiol and hydrogen sulfide are also highly toxic and exist in the human body in minute traces, specifically in the colon, giving feces and flatus their characteristic odors. The presence of pyridine in the vaginal secretions of the human female is not harmful since it is present only in minute traces. Methanethiol and hydrogen sulfide have such powerful odors that the human nose can detect them at just a few parts per million in the air, and the same thing is true for pyridine with its strong "fishy" odor1. Furthermore, pyridine is not present in freshly produced vaginal secretion. The odor of freshly produced vaginal secretion is similar to that of vinegar, yogurt or sour milk, due to the presence of acetic acid (found in vinegar) and lactic acid (found in yogurt and sour milk) 234. Pyridine is a by-product of bacteria feeding upon the vaginal secretion, and pyridine accumulates in very minute traces, causing a fish-like odor. Eventually pyridine itself is actually metabolized by anaerobic bacteria into simpler compounds that are odorless. --Richontaban 19:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I don't think anyone's concerned about this. And I moved it to the bottom, where it should go, and am contemplating removing it outright as it doesn't have any suggestions to improve the talk page. WLU 19:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)