Talk:Vader (band)

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To-do list for Vader (band):
  • Check tone of article -- not written in encyclopedia format; much too biased (i.e., Demo being easily most successful), etc.
  • Doc's issues and relation with the band
  • Thrash metal band's roots
  • Career and growing popularity outside origin's country (Poland)
  • Lyrical content
  • Techincal elements in Band's introduction
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[edit] Doc's Death

Reverted back to older version. I can't find anything regarding Doc's cause of death. The original statement that the metal press references says that there are no further details. There is speculation that it was drug or alcohol related as those were the reasons he was removed from Vader. The only reference to AIDs I could find was a comment to a post on this web site, it seemed like flame bait to me and offered no edidence. I say we list no reason for his death until an official statement is released by the band or his family. This metalunderground.com comment is the only reference to AIDs I've been able to find. Here is the news report regarding his death, no mention of causes. This is also listed at Digitalmetal.com and Bravewords.com. --Aboverepine 01:36, August 22, 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Reign Forever World

Is this a full CD or not? I put it in as one, but the official page lists it as a MCd, but it is quite long.HichamVanborm 02:23, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

It's not a full length. It's an EP. Most of the songs are reworkings of older songs and covers. Also, it has been issued with another EP (Blood) in the United States as one disc. If you have that version, it would seem pretty long. Aboverepine 16:13, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vader means father?

"vader" means father? This is new for me. Wikitionary says vader is father in dutch. I really don't think this is right. From what I've read in some interview the name comes from Darth Vader. But I'm not 100% sure.

I don't speak dutch, but i speak german, of which dutch is a very VERY close relative... the german word for Fathr is Vater, so i would not be at all surprised if "Vader" is Nederlands for "father"... perhaps Darth is a dialectal form of "Dark." AeturnalNarcosis (talk) 21:34, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


On other note - "Reborn in Chaos" is a compilation of old demos not a full album.

Vader *does* mean "father" in Dutch. What the origian of the band name is I'm not entirely sure , IIRC I read some interview where Peter said it came indeed from Darth Vader Spearhead 22:15, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
It does mean father in dutch, and this is the reason Darth Vader was called Darth Vader, being Luke's father. --Janster 20:19, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
signed Sat621 22:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.151.48.83 (talk)

[edit] Neutrality

the biography section seems a little biased to me...

  • "most successful demo of all time" ... and without a citation
  • "equipment available behind the iron curtain."

AeturnalNarcosis (talk) 21:34, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm the one that removed a lot of the non-neutral pov from far back and I left it because it shows the notability of their demo/or didn't know what to do with it (#1 is from their bio) but #2 "equipment available behind the iron curtain." maybe pulling it a little. −₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪ kaiden 05:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
no offence intended.... unfortunately, i am not clever enough to properly reword it... just seemed a little one sided in 2 ways (interestingly enough): A) there's almost no information available about death metal bands' sales, so we have no real (statistical) way of telling how successful their demo was, nor do we have any statistical data of other death metal demos to which we can compare it, and B) the eastern block may have had similar quality sound production equipment to the western block, if not the exact same (i believe economic ties between the east and west were beginning to open up around the time their demo was recorded). that's all i'm getting at. AeturnalNarcosis (talk) 21:53, 2 May 2008 (UTC)