Talk:V for Vendetta (film)

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Contents 1 I don't get it. 2 Broken cites 3 V for Vendetta Template 4 TfD nomination of Template:V for Vendetta 5 Copyediting sorely needed 6 Myspaces? 7 Another "V" reference? 8 Anonymous wears the Guy Fawkes Mask 9 us uk opening 10 What year is it set in?

[edit] I don't get it.

"This article is within the scope of WikiProject LGBT studies, which tries to ensure comprehensive and factual coverage of all LGBT related issues on Wikipedia."

WTF? Phoenix7731 15:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Norsefire in both the graphic novel and the film terrorize LGBT men and women by sending them to concentration camps. AgentFade2Black 02:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

That doesn't make it related.

I disagree, anonymous commenter. It becomes a major subplot during the later half of the film, starting when Evey escapes to Gordon Deitrich's home. The character is a fan of literature and the arts, and he is also in the closet; the characterization reminded me very much of Dave Sim's portrayal of Oscar Wilde in Cerebus. Later, in prison, Evey reads a letter from a persecuted lesbian woman named Victoria, which gives her hope.

The movie illustrates the fear that many in the LGBT community have that a highly security-minded regime would be anti-homosexualist. The other major point by which this film becomes relevant to the LGBT Studies group is the discussion that Larry Wachowski is exploring his sexuality. Various people and magazines have reported seeing him dressed as a woman, or dating a dominatrix, or in the company of a mostly transgendered adult film star.

In short, this movie's frank discussion of LGBT oppression makes it relevant. --75.161.64.166 21:48, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Having Stephen Fry playing the role of Gordon is an elegant in-joke, as Stephen is Gay [so his portrayal may actually be a comment on his life] and he protrayed Oscar Wilde in a film.

This is on an unrelated topic but why was V in the Larkhill social devient camp?Iankap99 (talk) 17:17, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

193.243.227.1 (talk) 12:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

It's never mentioned in the book, or the film, why V ends up in Larkhill. In the end of the book (which, from reading before the film came out, makes the film seem a travesty and an insult. Alan Moore's comments sum it up well), at the end, Evey imagines removing his mask and seeing his face. First she imagines him black, then as a middle-aged man with a moustache which is a bit gay looking. We never find out, but that's sort of the point, V ends up more and less than just a person. He fights for anarchy and for everyone, and giving him one social group to represent would diminish that. They don't want you thinking "aaah, so that's why he did it".

And Stephen Fry is a completely utterly well-known homosexual, it's not a very subtle joke. He does play one well. In the book of course Gordon is a working-class petty criminal and Evey's lover. Couldn't imagine less of a suitable character for Stephen to play, reason #9999 why people who read the book hate the film.

217.171.129.75 (talk) 20:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC) greenaum

[edit] Broken cites

It appears citations number 32, 36 and 59 have dissapeared. Alientraveller 12:48, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] V for Vendetta Template

I'm removing this template from all its articles:

v • d • e V for Vendetta Works Graphic novel | Film | Film novelization | Soundtrack Creators Alan Moore | David Lloyd Characters V | Evey Hammond | Eric Finch | Valerie Page | Adam Susan | Minor characters See also Guy Fawkes | Norsefire | Storm Saxon

Which, I agree, is fairly provocative. However, I don't see how "V for Vendetta" deserves this on its own, or what useful information it provides. Surely the links in the articles are sufficient? If people want to revert my changes, that's fine by me. But please reply to this post so we can get a discussion started. At the moment I see no reason why the template should exist. Maccy69 13:37, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I've reverted my previous edit and requested a template deletion instead, see below. Maccy69 17:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:V for Vendetta

Template:V for Vendetta has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Maccy69 17:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyediting sorely needed

Lots of junk has been added since last November 5th, and we will need a cleansing fire to clear it out :) Judgesurreal777 21:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Myspaces?

I'm wondering if it's worth adding the Myspaces for V or Chancellor Sutler to the External Links, or possibly to the Publicity section. They don't really have anything important to add to the article, but it would be a fun item to include regardless. Thoughts? Kyu! (talk) 05:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Another "V" reference?

Just after V is shown beginning his return to Evey and the train near the end of the movie, the scene shifts briefly to Big Ben showing five minutes to midnight (in the shape of a V, nonetheless), a possible reference to the Doomsday Clock. Worthy of mention? Dfsghjkgfhdg (talk) 00:42, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anonymous wears the Guy Fawkes Mask

Although The Boston Globe claims the mask to be an allusion to the actual Guy Fawkes and the movie/comic, the real reason the pseudo-members of Anonymous wear the mask is a reference to a 4chan meme. The meme is called Epic Fail Guy, often referred to as EFG; he was created by a board member of 4chan and featured a stick character who often interacted with the posters and did humorous things like shoot Brock, one of the main characters of the show "Pokemon." The mask comes in place after a thread in which EFG was eating a taco which he accidentally dropped. Thinking no one was watching him, he began to eat the taco off the floor but realized that everyone in the thread was looking at him. Embarrassed, EFG put the taco into a trash can, which he put his head into to eat the rest of the taco. By the time he came out, he was wearing the mask. After this thread, EFG appeared in subsequent threads with the mask on.

I just wanted to clear that up, and maybe suggest that we should mention it in the article under the section regarding Anonymous.--75.57.84.20 (talk) 05:15, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Possibly this was the original reason, but I think the link to the movie is obvious even for Anonymous participants. Circeus (talk) 21:53, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

No, I know how Anonymous thinks. The masks represent Epic Fail Guy, not V. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.225.139.146 (talk) 02:16, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I say drop that section entirely, even if Anonymous protest participants take inspiration from the movie, its nothing to do with the movie itself, which is the topic this article deals with. I "see also" link would be far more appropriate. ☯Ferdia O'Brien ^(T)/_(C) 08:36, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Any objections?

I'm gonna take that as a no and set up a See Also link 62.24.204.7 (talk) 20:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

4chan does a lot of things. They, however, specifically chose this. Whether or not the whole of 4chan recognizes the importance of the Guy Fawkes mask, anonymity, and V for Vendetta, -someone- certainly did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.254.123.233 (talk) 01:32, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] us uk opening

The US version is different to the uk version. In the UK, they don't have the bit about Guy Fawkes, presubly cos everyone knows it already, whereas in hte US, no would have heard of him. In the UK it starts with a montage of violence and chaos around the world and pulls out from a tv report declaring 'Only Britain Stands'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.201.145 (talk) 16:53, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What year is it set in?

The comic is set in the nineties but all i know is that the film is set sometime after 2015. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bosco13 (talk • contribs) 13:53, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I believe it is 2015. Farslayer (talk) 08:18, 2 May 2008 (UTC)