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[edit] Is V blind?

The film makes several suggestions that V is blind and benefits from enhanced senses like Marvel's Daredevil. When he emerges from the fire, Delia says he looked at her, but not with eyes, as he had no eyes. Obviously he seems to have no eyes behind the mask, but the citizens wearing the mask throughout the film also have no visible eyes. This could be a screen behind the mask for style purposes, although shots of V putting on the mask show that it has no screen behind the eyes and mouth. V does seem to be wearing a skimask/hood behind his mask, though. In the scene where V is disguised as a police officer and kidnaps Evey, he is wearing a burn prostethic behind the ski-mask and if you look closely, he seems to have large blacked eyes, similar to Hellraiser Cenobites. In the scenes where V emerges from the burning ruins of Larkhill, the closeup of his face also reveals his eyes to be "black". Also while in disguise later as Mirkwood, he is wearing a pair of shades. This could be for one of two reasons: To disguise his black/missing eyes, or to make retinal identification impossible.

I believe V is either blind or has mutated pupils. It is possible that he sees in a sort of thermal or enhanced vision, lending to his quick reflexes and ability to predict movements in his enemies.

I also think it is possible that his eyes are turned black for unspecified reasons, which is what Delia meant when "there were no eyes". The blacking of the eyes in the various scenes also could have been an editing choice for scene enhancement reasons. -Unknown

Wow, I guess someone thought of this before I did :) I added something like that to the part of the article discussing the movie version already. I think it's likely his eyes have been warped, though I'm not sure if he's actually blind. The amount of art in his place seems kind of silly if he's the only person around (he could not have predicted taking in Evey) to see it. Tyciol 20:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deceased?

Is V really deceased? From what I've read, it seems like the "identity" of V is passed on to Evey at the end of the Graphic Novel.--P-Chan 09:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah as far as I know, thats what apparently happens. But, like his identity, does anyone really know? By the way, should we rename this to V (comics), or V (character)? Cvene64 14:19, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Even though comics seems to be the common term on Wikipedia in regards to characters, I think V really became well-known from the film he's in. So either one is ok, but I am in favour of "character". That's my 2 cents. --P-Chan 18:25, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, I do not have a preference, I just thought about naming conventions, but yeah, just a suggestion, your call. Cvene64 11:42, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
I just changed it to character, and I just noticed that all the old V (V for Vendetta) links are redirecting ok.--P-Chan 08:11, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
I think you guys overlooked the fact that there are hundreds and thousands of "V" now. He was an idea. -Unknown
Even so, V being an idea aside, it is his character that is really the star 'V', and even with Evey taking up the role, she is better discussed under her known name. Tyciol 20:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image

I have replaced the cover image with a screenshot. Not meaning to disrespect the original source, but it looks to similar to the V for Vendetta page with that image. I will try and find a replacement. Cvene64 15:26, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Image

I was just about to say that it is perfect...but.. :( ...is that cropped by any chance? Cvene64 12:45, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, I had to crop it because the angle is slightly off and I didn't want to leave any of the bordering white. Sarge Baldy 09:54, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hero infobox

Is this right? I thought one of the ideas of the graphic-novel was that it is up for the reader to decide if he is good/bad...?Cvene64 03:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Even comic characters that are supposed to be "bad" use that template, so I don't think it's a problem. It's used for all comic book characters. Sarge Baldy 04:17, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Weaving

How do you know that that is Weaving in the movie still? Weaving took over for James Purefoy who was never credited and we were told which V shots had a stuntman or Purefoy or Weaving. --Blue Spider 14:08, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] V's Victims

In the article it only mentions that V attacked Prothero, Surridge and Lilliman; but didn't he kill everyone who was at Larkhill, making their deaths look accidental? Finch looks up the records of everyone from the camp in chapter 10, venom, and finds that they're all dead, blaming V. Or is this just a misunderstanding? (Stoodly 18:33, 4 August 2006 (UTC))

It's theoretically possible some might have died of natural causes but I think it's beyond reasonable doubt that V killed the vast majority of them.Hughteg 11:29, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I think so too. Although, with 20 years passing in the movie rather than 5 from the comic, natural causes or accidents or whatever probably took a deal of them. I suppose it depends on how recently they died. Since his murders took place in the year before the concluding Nov 5 I guess he let most of them live until perhaps right before, as to avoid rousing suspicion? Tyciol 20:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Didn't V only start killing them after the night he saves Evey? I didn't understand that there was a 20 year time lapse anywhere? Only one year since then, right? 24.16.184.74 17:53, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Priority?

There is a character--among other things--called "V" in Thomas Pynchon's novel of the same name. Surely there's something wrong when this title directs to an article about comic books rather than one about a major piece of literature.

That statement smacks of condescension. Why don't you change the name of the (redirect) pages so that they no longer interfere with one another? -Adasta- 11:32, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Actually, shouldn't this page be named V (comics)? --Pentasyllabic 18:27, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Skin

You know, in the film, you can briefly see V's eyes and the area around them. When V is posing as a Fingerman and kidnaps Evey, you can see his skin through the ski mask. Since it is red, you can tell that he isn't wearing some kind of other skin mask.- JustPhil 12:22, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Weaving was wearing a facial prosthetic for that scene actually. Also when he poses as Brookewood (or whatever that guy's name is), he is wearing a scarred facial skin under the beard and glasses. Furthermore, the filmmakers depicted V's eyes as being blacked out in two scenes, although I'm not sure if it was for editing reasons or canonical. -Unknown
The mask being scarred doesn't mean his real face isn't though, it might just be used to draw off suspicion. The burning sort of implies that his whole body is scarred, I put a bit explaining how it could provide one explanation why he won't show his face to Evey. Tyciol 20:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hideout?

I'm not familiar with London's layout, in the movie when he takes Evey to the rooftop, does anyone figure out where V's hideout is? He mentions it is underground, so he could be hiding beneath the building and have a secret entranceway to the roof. It seemed to be high up, at first I thought 'tower of london' or something, but perhaps someone more familiar with architecture could identify whether it was some sort of landmark, or just a random building? Since Evey exited on her own, she would know where it was, and were it a landmark it might draw some suspicion when she exited, so I'm thinking it was probably just some home, albeit, a fancy one. It makes you wonder how V got so much wealth, when he has no identity, and managed to buy this place. Perhaps it was abandoned and he fixed it up himself, financing it through theivery. Tyciol 20:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] D?

While reading the comparison between V and the Moore's other character [1] I got thinking... Vampire Hunter D. He was a character who came out during the same period. V first appeared in 1982, whereas the D novel was published the following year, 1983, and came to film (anime) in 1985. They are both loner characters with incredible melee skill (D uses a great sword, V uses daggers). They both wear a black coat and a wide-brimmed black hat. V wears a white mask, D has a very pale face. They are both somewhat inhuman, possessing superhuman abilities. V has them due to the experimentation, whereas D has them because has is half-vampire. They both have a single-letter name with an 'ee' sound. It is possible that D was based upon V? The language barrier between England and Japan and the close dating makes it seem unlikely to me, but who knows right? Perhaps great authors stick together. I can see it being likely that they were conspired during the same period of time. More likely it is a coincidence (sorry V) and perhaps they both drew some inspiration from a similar source, like Zorro. I am actually surprised Zorro is not mentioned in this article, he's a far more likely inspiration than Batman, who was himself based upon Zorro in many ways. Tyciol 21:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quotes

Is V quoting literature, or does rhetoric and verbage all come from inside his much deranged head? I havent seen any primary quotation sources listed, but I still have a feeling probably a lot of what he says has already been said by other long dead personages. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rektide (talk • contribs) 19:21, 14 May 2007 (UTC).

It's a mix of both.

He quotes a variety of literature, including Shakespeare and Goethe. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 06:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] a question of V's abilities in the movie

can we be sure a 100% that V in the movie didn't have enhanced strength and speed? i mean, the guy hits a fingerman at the beginning of the movie, with enough force; that he flies into a nearby wall; either killing him on impact, or at least knocked him out. he later then took another fingerman, that punched him in the face, and picked him off the ground, and slammed him into the adjacent wall; with one arm.

when he made his last stand, he was able to throw his daggers with enough force and speed, to create motion blur trails as they flew, and knock the soldiers who were standing next to Creedy, off their feet and across the ground. every move he made in that fight, exhibited great physical strength. One of the Soldiers he drove his dagger into was picked off the ground with one arm. He later pulled the dagger completely through the guy; essentially disembowling him(they don't show this part, but they do show that V had pulled the dagger across the guy's midsection, as he threw him).


If this isn't proof at all, that He has enhanced strength and speed, than what the hell was it? I know for damn sure, something like enhanced kinesthetic reflexes, won't give you the ability, to hit someone with great force or throw knives with great force and speed. It'd give him the ability to do what is mentioned in the movie section of the article, but the great physical strength and speed seen? I doubt it. But then again, I could be absolutely wrong about the entire ordeal.

I agree. He still seems to have all the abilities of the comic version, just from a different source (and that minor blurb about kinesthetic reflexes may have been all the writers deemed worthy of inclusion). Cybertooth85 03:56, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Undesirable

The facilities that the government was throwing people, and V, into were for "political prisoners, homosexuals, Jews, blacks, Pakistanis, Muslims and probably all non-Europeans", like the article states. Are their any clues or allusions to which of these undesirable groups V belonged to? --75.54.127.224 04:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

All of them. The whole point is that it shouldn't matter. In all likelihood, he was probably political prisoner who already detested what the government was doing but there could be any number of "comic book" explanations. ~ZytheTalk to me! 20:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] V for Vendetta Template

I'm removing this template from all its articles:

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Which, I agree, is fairly provocative. However, I don't see how "V for Vendetta" deserves this on its own, or what useful information it provides. Surely the links in the articles are sufficient? If people want to revert my changes, that's fine by me. But please reply to this post so we can get a discussion started. At the moment I see no reason why the template should exist. Maccy69 13:38, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I've reverted my previous edit and requested a template deletion instead, see below. Maccy69 17:38, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:V for Vendetta

Template:V for Vendetta has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Maccy69 17:38, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An easier search for "V"

Typing in "codename V" should bring up this page, as he was referred as this in the film. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redeeming Light (talk • contribs) 04:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Larkhill

"his powers are no longer the result of a hormonal experiment, but an end result of a series of biological weapons experiments." All it said in the movie was that there were experiments, and as I recall, the doctor tells about medical experiments seeking a cure. So I move this part be strikken from the article. Robin.lemstra (talk) 08:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)