Talk:V (The Original Miniseries)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] V: The Final Battle "decanonised"

We cannot say that everything that came after the original 1983 mini-series is now decanonised purely because Kenneth Johnson didn't like it. Regardless of the fact that he has written a novel entitled V: The Second Generation in 2008 (that ignores V: The Final Battle and V: The Series), those productions have already been made and exist. At the very most, V: The Second Generation can only be seen as an alternative sequel to the original mini-series, not as the sole official sequel and Johnson is deluding himself if he thinks they can be ignored in their entirety.79.66.35.113 (talk) 08:06, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually, whoever owns the rights - and I assume Johnson owns/controls something, or he couldn't have written the books - can say what is canon, and what is not. Granted, he can't make fans believe it, just as those who own Stargate SG-1 can't convince fans of the original film that the film in non-canon/non-official, even though, legally, it is just that. Either way, we do need a reliable source to state whether Johnson considers the VTFB and the series to be non-canon, or if he "graciously" alows it to exist as an alternative. We don't have to like it, but legally, it's the rights-owners' decision, and that's what we have to report here. - BillCJ (talk) 08:26, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I'm not convinced Johnson does own the rights completely, otherwise how would The Final Battle have been made without his approval. Johnson may hold the non-television rights to the characters and situations (such as books and theatrical films, etc) but ownership of total rights is debateable. I think what we have here is a Battlestar Galactica situation, which was originally created by Glen A Larson but owned by Universal. Larson even created a sequel to it (Galactica 1980) but this is widely not considered canon because it does not tie-in to the original 1978 series as it creates continuity problems. However, despite years of campaigning, Universal decided not to allow Larson (or series star Richard Hatch) to make a continuation of the original series and opted for a remake by Ronald D Moore instead because - whether it was good or not - Galactica 1980 exists. Going back to the topic of V, we cannot just ignore that The Final Battle and The Series are no longer canon just because Johnson wants it that way. They were made by the official rights holders at the time (which is Warner Bros). Johnson will likely say that he does not consider TFB and TS to be canon purely because he wasn't involved in them, but that does not make it true. At best, his new novel is an alternative sequel and nothing more. I think the only way to resolve this would be for them to remake the original mini-series (which seems to be what NBC are in favour of doing anyway) and then Johnson's "Second Generation" can be an official canonised sequel to the remake.79.66.35.113 (talk) 09:01, 24 March 2008 (UTC)