Talk:V.I.N.CENT

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[edit] V.I.N.CENT: A Japanese Design?

Despite what some people have said about these machines (particularly on the Amazon.com reviews of the film) these robots look remarkably realistic and even prophetic, given the decision of Japanese companies to design robots that are esthetically pleasing. Would it be worth mentioning the similarity between these robots and trends in Japanese design? IdeArchos 17:08, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where else have I seen V.I.N.CENT before?

I vaguely remember that when I was a child I saw the same robot design in something else. It could be another movie or it could be a TV series or comic book; I don’t remember. Does anyone know where else this robot design was used? Felicity4711 23:08, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I had a children’s “Golden Book” featuring the characters from Black Hole when I was a small child. The plot diverged from the film but I cannot remember what it was about as it was so, so long ago. BOB, VINCENT, Maximilian and the STAR robot were all in it though. I don’t think the human characters were in it. I’ve not seen these characters in any other adaptation or merchandising over the years.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.50.60.176 (talk) 08:49, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

When I was a child I had the ViewMaster slides for The Black Hole, but have never been able to see the movie itself, so I’ve had a friend order it for me on-line. Felicity4711 04:27, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I was eager to see the film for years as well and when I finally did. a few years ago in my early twenties, I was fairly disappointed.  :-( The acting is, to put it kindly, pedestrian, and BOB and VINCENT, though looking great in illustrations, are fairly woeful, as VINCENT spouts more folk-wisdom than Yoda and BOB has a horrible American "cowboy" accent. The ending is an attempt at a spiritual trip but is really shoddy compared to 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Despite those major negatives, there are some great moments as Cygnus is one of the most stunning designs for a ship I have ever seen (both the interior and exterior.) Maxmillien is appropriately menacing and the whole idea of a virtual ghost ship poised on the edge of a black hole is very atmospheric. I read the IMDB comments on the film recently and many people compared it to Disney's take on 20 000 Leagues Under the Sea, which I subsequently watched. 20 000 Leagues is impressive, with strong acting, especially from James Mason, and (for a Disney children's film) a quite sophisticated debate of the morality of Nemo's actions. It is well-worth checking out, if you've not seen it.

Anyway, I hope you find some enjoyment in Black Hole, Felicity. Don't expect a masterpiece by any means but if you can lose yourself in the atmosphere of life aboard the Cygnus, you will gain some pleasure from it and it is definitely worth watching to at least satiate your curiosity. If you have young children who are fond of space operas such as Star Wars they will probably enjoy it too. Other than that, stick to the likes of Blake's 7 if you are looking for a good, well-written SF adventure. Take care, David. 211.26.1.13 11:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

By the way, here is a link to an image of that Golden Book I was talking about. It is a bit eerie to see it online as I have not gazed at that cover for over twenty years!

Image of Golden Book Cover

As I stated before, from memory, the story is quite different from the film and features only the robot characters. David. 211.26.1.13 11:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

V.I.N.CENT makes a cameo in Sealab 2021 episode "all that jazz" as the robot that collects captain Murphy's teeth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.237.7.177 (talk) 03:52, 9 September 2007 (UTC)