Talk:USS Winston S. Churchill (DDG-81)

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Contents 1 Lutjens "We Stand By You" Message 1.1 The picture 1.2 Refactoring proposal 2 Bar 3 RN officer

[edit] Lutjens "We Stand By You" Message

I removed the comment stating that the German naval vessel's message to the Churchill was ironic considering Germany "refused to back military action due to the lack of a UN resolution." This statement of course refers to the 2003 Iraq invasion, and not the invasion of Afghanistan. Outside the US and UK, Germany was one of the largest contributors to the coalition forces and thus staying true to the wording of the message of standing by the United States in response to 9/11. The statement did not make the distinction between the military campaigns and implies that Germany did not support the US in pursuit of terror or its reaction to 9/11.

[edit] The picture

I rearranged the article a little so that the text is all at the top and the picture at the bottom right. TomStar81 04:22, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Refactoring proposal

I think there's more facts to report about the "We Stand By You" salute, and I propose to create a separate article devoted to the incident. I would remove that content from this article, and link to the new article. I've put some research notes on my User_Talk:Jdlh page. Comments welcome.

[edit] Bar

sadly whoever made this website doesnt know the churchill like me i am a shipmate on there and the churchill has no bar but a full time british officer for navigation officer has a requirement of the royal navy...no bar in the churchill us navy prohibits alchahol on us navy units.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Txrednck1 (talk • contribs) 2007-04-14 13:59 (UTC)

Hey, it's great to have information from people with direct knowledge. Can you point us to a web page or newspaper article that talks about having a Royal Navy officer on board? I'd like to be able to attribute this information to a reliable, published source. Regarding the bar, I've seen a picture of a pub counter with taps that claims to be the Churchill. Are you saying that no such counter is installed? I can believe that any beer taps there aren't connected to beer! --Jdlh | Talk 19:17, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Er, Txrednck1 you're wrong. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y120/Gooseamerica/pub.jpg - note the baseball caps me and my friend are wearing, and the member of the ships company. Also here is a picture from the same day with the Naval Officer stood next to the Ship's Captain; http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y120/Gooseamerica/rn.jpg TheMongoose. By the way its not really a simulated pub counter; the whole mess (I think its the petty officers?) is designed to impersonate a British pub —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMongoose (talk • contribs) 10:38, April 16, 2007

Well I am a plankowner from the churchill and I remember when Young's came to our ship in Portsmouth to install the bar set. The taps do work, and the bar is located in the Chief's mess. As for the British Navigator on the ship, that is true and I can say they have all added a fine quality to our ship when I was there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.160.196.94 (talk • contribs) 19:03, July 5, 2007

Amen! Whoever that Txrednck1 joker is, he's not from the Churchill! TheMongoose

If you folks are plankowners, could you add something about the shock trials down off of Flordia? I'm surprised to see nothing here about them, and they were pretty spectacular. 130.76.96.14 (talk) 20:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RN officer

i would also like to see more detail on this officer. will this person always be the navigator, or will the next guy perhaps hold some other position? is this seen as a plum for an up-and-comer, or is he a 'who can we do without for 2 years?' sort.etc., etc. on the issue of the bar, i too, have a hard time believing that beer is served. during my westpac cruise many years ago, a guy got 3 days in the brig on bread and water for bringing beer aboard. hell, even the royal navy eliminated the daily 'tot' some years ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toyokuni3 (talk • contribs) 17:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)