Wikipedia talk:Userboxes/Time

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1 Non-standard time zones
2 ¿UTC? - ¿GMT? - Let the user decide
3 So many timezone boxes
4 Addition

It would be nice if someone wikified these: putting a link from GMT to GMT and put each indivdual timezone with a link to the countries it covers.--God_of War 20:31, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Isn't it supposed to be UTC? -- Denelson 83 22:13, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm for UTC, too, yes. —Nightstallion (?) 23:19, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

How about a vote - all GMT templates changed to UTC? Hairy Dude 00:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Change to UTC --horse dreamer 20:50, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

let people choose If the point of userboxes is expression of user preferences, I don't see how it'll do much good to force users to use one format over another. The below solution (Template:User timezone) will wikify the entire timezone (e.g. UTC+5), and those pages do list the locations that use that time. --Eric's penguin 01:35, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Non-standard time zones

What about timezones that are not "standard" (ex: India, Pakistan, Nepal, Iran, Central Australia, Newfoundland, etc.)?

Ύ== DST ==

There is no distinction for Daylight Saving Time aka Summer time et al. It is not correct for someone in a DST-subject zone to say they are + or - GMT as this will change twice a year. GMT is generally ntyugiuot considered subject to summer time. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ 22:42, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

By the same token, the eastern seaboard of the United States is called EST for standard time, and EDT (which sometimes conflicts with the Australian time zone) for daylight savings. There doesn't seem to be an easy solution to this, but see my comment below. horse dreamer 23:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I've added the CET template to cover these type of problem for our european users, i personally think that names of timezones should be used (with a link to the article about that timezone) instead of the difference between GMT... but that's my personal opinion. Alexanderpas 21:05, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ¿UTC? - ¿GMT? - Let the user decide

Add this code to the box and the user can specify GMT or UTC with a paramater. Now the only debate should be about what the default abbreviation should be--God of War 01:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

{{qif|test={{{1|}}}|then='''[[GMT]]'''|else|then=[[UTC]]}}

For this type of box, I recommend that UTC be default, because it is the international standard. horse dreamer 23:05, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] So many timezone boxes

I feel that having so many GMT and UTC +/- boxes is redundant, when a single box which takes a parameter would suffice. GMT already has such a box. For that matter, why don't we make one box saying: This user's timezone is {{{1}}} and be done with the whole thing. horse dreamer 22:59, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I submit for your approval Template:User timezone --horse dreamer 23:15, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

A (probably redundant) attempt at a uniform look for GMT and UTC userboxes (retaining wikilinks to each time format):
Template:User GMT diff
Template:User UTC diff
--Eric's penguin 04:38, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I tend to favor my solution, because it allows the user to specify GMT+/- or UTC+/- if they want, in addition to whatever specific designations they might prefer. --horse dreamer 20:46, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the simplicity of your solution, Hd; I was trying for the same thing with automatic wikification of UTC/GMT. I altered yours so that the entire time zone will be wikified. I now think yours is better. --Eric's penguin 01:35, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, I clearly failed to do what I said I did. Can ya fix it to do what I was trying for? Thanks... Eric's penguin 01:42, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

It's fixed now. You needed to include a default value for {{{1}}} --horse dreamer 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I have one up there I made quite a while ago: {{User time diff}}. Perhaps we should decide which one(s) to officially use and destroy the others. Mine has a different color scheme, but that could be changed, and it allows for custom color settings. -Xol 01:04, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

The difference is that your userbox assumes GMT. The new one is completely scheme agnostic. I wouldn't necessarily support the deletion of the other userboxes right away, because it would break a good number of pages. If there is a way to gradually phase them out, then I would support the removal of other timezone boxes and using one completely customizable one. --horse dreamer 04:51, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but be pressing the backspace key a few times, both will become identical. -Xol 23:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Addition

There needs to be a "This user believes UTC is better than the local time" or something of the like. if I knew how to make the userboxes I'd do so...but I've not clue...Dr Denim 00:52, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I just figured out how to make the userboxes...thanks anywho though Dr Denim 20:00, 22 May 2006 (UTC)