Talk:Us Tareyton smokers would rather fight than switch!

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Good article Us Tareyton smokers would rather fight than switch! has been listed as one of the Social sciences and society good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can delist it, or ask for a reassessment.
An entry from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on August 6, 2006.
August 6, 2006 Good article nominee Listed

Nominated by Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 03:12, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA nominee

Looks good, but where did that statistic about being the second most popular slogan come from? That's unverified and would keep me from giving it the green light.--Esprit15d 13:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

It wasn't a "statistic." In any case, I removed it. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 17:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
"It is one of the best-known American tobacco advertising campaigns." is right at the top -- any refs?
I also looked into whether Martha was a Tareyton "fighter" in a "print ad" -- the reference isn't clear: she continued a successful modeling career, doing television commercials for Breck, Clairol, Lifebuoy soap and Tareyton cigarettes (no fighting mentioned, also this is tv commercials not print ads)
MLK Jr section is not referenced either.
The title is a little odd. How about "Tareyton cigarette advertising campaigns" or something similarly bori....I mean encyclopedic? Justforasecond 07:24, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
The title was how the ad was. I am very firm in not changing it. The MLK Jr. section is referenced by the actual song. You can download it and hear it. Martha was not in a television ad since they started later than the time frame would allow. I really do think this is a lot of nitpicking. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 18:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
The title is fine — the suggested alternative is simply incorrect, because this article is about this one campaign, not Tareyton ads in general. Secondly, it would be nice if we had a citation specifically confirming that King was referencing the ads, but otherwise that section is fine.--SB | T 03:16, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Great article. These ads are as weird today as they were in the 1960s.

[edit] MLK "Vietnam" quote

I can't find a source for the statement that the Martin Luther King Jr. quote was about the Vietnam War. I'm worried that perhaps people assume it's about the War. It could, in theory, be about educated blacks ("troops") not joining the civil rights movement ("refus[ing] to fight"). Calbaer 18:55, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Are you sure it's even a valid MLK quote? Seems to me I heard comedians of that era work the comment "I'd rather switch than fight" into routines, parodying the slogan. MLK was an orator, not a standup comic. Wahkeenah 19:06, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
It's known for being the opening sample to the song "Fight the Power." It sounds like MLK, but I guess I haven't seen any solid proof that it is; the quote isn't mentioned in the liner notes to Fear of a Black Planet. It doesn't sound like a standup comic, though. Calbaer 04:12, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
If you look at the article for this song (at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight_the_Power) it says the quote is from Thomas "TNT" Todd so one of these articles must be wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.209.206.1 (talk) 15:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)