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[edit] Oppose Usage

I oppose the usage of this image because it makes the same error that a previous image that was deleted did by trying to put too much information on one image. For example, constitutional amendments against same sex marriage do not necessarily mean that domestic partnerships are banned. I can come to some misleading views by using this map. For example, I could look at Oregon and see that it is light blue indicating that domestic partnerships are allowed. But since there is no orange, I wouldn't know that a constitutional amendment bans same sex marriage. A Constitutional amendment against same sex marriage is not mutually exclusive with laws on domestic partnerships or civil unions. Thus, this image should be deleted and one or both of the images that I created before should be used in its place. Old images: Image 1, Image 2--Burzum 21:20, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

The proposed map is also inaccurate though. Oregon has domestic partnerships, not civil unions. And you need to take the "equal to marriage" and "lesser than marriage" labels off completely. In fact, there are many problems with civil unions that make them a lesser status to marriage by default (many multi-national and multi-state corporations do not recognize them, for example). See: http://www.365gay.com/Newscon07/05/052207njunions.htm. Moreover, the "domestic partnerships" offered in California and Oregon are practically the same as a civil union, so it's not appropriate to imply that they are a lesser status. See: Domestic partnerships in California and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Civil_unions_in_Oregon. 24.69.174.106 03:42, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree. When I originally created the first map I gave the grouping "domestic partnerships and civil unions" due to the ambiguity in definitions. Unfortunately, the first map has been updated to its current form. Originally it was designed to mimic the world map in colors and definitions. On the second map I just made four distinctions: constitutional amendments ban same sex marriage, State law bans same sex marriage, executive or judicial rulings ban same sex marriage (without a State law), or same sex marriage is permitted. Obviously both of these maps have recently suffered massive feature creep. They are attempting to merge to be the image of this article (which as I pointed out is a very bad idea). They should be returned to their original forms which were clear and concise.--Burzum 20:07, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
For your reference, compare and contrast the earlier versions in the history: Image 1 Image 2--Burzum 20:17, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I made most of the changes on US Map SSM Laws and US_Map_SS Civil Union and Domestic_Partnerships. I meant to be as complete as possible. For the civil unions and domestic relationships, I only referred to the text of the laws. When the text says "same rights" explicitely, I made that specific difference. I guess we could come back to the simpler Image 2 if you consider marriage only (mind the needed changes though) ... But then, keep the last version for a separate map intended for Same-sex_marriage_status_in_the_United_States_by_state (and maybe) Same-sex_marriage_legislation_in_the_United_States_by_state. --Mimich 09:37, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I used the Image:Defense_of_marriage_amendment_types_US.svg picture in order to change the page. There is an open discussion about South Dakota and Nebraska on Talk:List_of_defense_of_marriage_amendments_to_U.S._state_constitutions_by_type (end of page) about all unions types being prevented. So, I finally suggest US Map SSM Laws to be reverted to a corrected "Image 2" and the current version of it to be used as a image called Image:US_Map_Same_Sex_Unions_General_Summary.svg.
Corrections on "Image 2" : Kansas and Alabama should be in red; Connecticut should be in pink. -- Mimich 11:14, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested updates

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[edit] District of Columbia

Can someone update this map to include the District of Columbia? It seems to have vanished between VA and MD in the map, and they do allow domestic partnerships.

Very true... also the Eastern Shore of Virgina is not colored in red. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.90.131.108 (talk) 19:05, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Another problem with this map

Another misleading thing here is that the map fails to distinguish between states with laws prohibiting same-sex unions (like Florida) and states that simply have no law about same-sex unions (like New Mexico). I'd fix it myself--somehow--but I have no idea how to go about editing a map. Maybe, to make everything perfectly clear, we just need two maps in one box: one showing laws against, and one showing the various kinds of government-sanctioned unions.--Textorus 22:42, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This map needs updating

This map does not indicate Iowa as having same-sex marriage. Can someone change this please? Thanks. —Christopher Mann McKaytalk 20:37, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Does it though? It should really only be updated when a change in situation is made to something more concrete, rather than its current state of limbo. 125.238.50.69 (talk) 06:25, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Jersey

New Jersey has both civil unions and domestic partnerships. Therefore, it should be colored with both shades of blue. -Rrius (talk) 04:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please adjust color code

The bluest and reddest colors are too similar. --207.176.159.90 (talk) 04:32, 2 February 2008 (UTC)