Talk:Urenui

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Hi Boethius. Please say rude things about the Urenui golf course building its 12th hole right next to the marker of Te Rangi Hīroa's birthplace. It must get clipped pretty often. And I was sure that I remembered it being closer to the domain road and further from the river than it now is. He pokokohua rātou! Mention the marae (I think it's the main one for Ngāti Mutunga). I think the marae is just called Urenui, but I'm not sure.—Koro Neil (talk) 14:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: the golf course

Thanks for taking the time to read the page, at least. It's rather unbalanced on the side of resources vs. actual text at the moment - but, like you, I haven't got actual access to the resources: so I'm not really able to write the article.

Now - to the golf course. A couple of observations.

1. This is an encyclopaedia - and not really a place for the advocacy of local issues: no matter how just or heartfelt. IOW, we gotta be neutral - and it's difficult to see how such an issue would affect or interest a reader from the other side of the world as being important enough to be in an encyclopaedia. It's very difficult to write an article without what Wikipedia call a POV (or Point of View), and, should I include such an addition as you suggest, the article stub might just get flagged, flamed, or vandalised. Or deleted entirely.

2. It's taken me the best part of a day to locate, collate, and hand-code the resource list that I've added to this article stub. I don't want it all destroyed (or reverted, as the Wikipedia community call it) because of a perceived lapse in judgment.

So - how to resolve this? One suggestion comes to mind...

1. You could make a note in Te Rangi Hiroa's biography that the local golf club has done what it has done. Non-pejoratively... Something like...

"Interestingly, the Urenui Golf Club has.... "

And just state what they've done. If someone makes a comment thereafter, that's most likely the time that the issue can be discussed and an appropriate annotation may or may not be made... :)

Eirenically,

Boethius65 (talk) 06:38, 29 January 2008 (UTC)