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Note: This is the talk page for the overall Wikipedia upload page: Wikipedia:Upload. There is a sandbox for editing that page. See Wikipedia talk:Upload/Sandbox.

See also the talk pages for the various Wikipedia upload forms:
Special:Upload (main upload form). Text introduction for it. Talk
Entirely my own work. Talk
The work of someone else, who has given permission to use it on Wikipedia or it is a work released under a free license. Talk
A work from a US federal government source. (NOT state or local government). Talk
A work from Flickr. Talk
A promotional photo from an advertisement, press kit, or other promotional source. Talk
The cover of an album or single. Talk
A cover or other page from a book, DVD, newspaper, magazine, or other such source. Talk
A screenshot taken of a movie, TV program, computer game, web site, computer program, music video, or other such source. Talk
The logo of an organization, brand, product, public facility, or other item. Talk
A picture of a postage stamp, or of currency. Talk
An image from a website. Talk
Other. Talk

Note: Most of the links in the left side of the above table are to the transcluded introductory instruction text for the various upload forms linked from Wikipedia:Upload. For the full range of such transcluded text see Special:Prefixindex/Mediawiki:Uploadtext.


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[edit] This Page is Worthless

Even though it talks to you like you're 3 years old, it still manages to confuse. I just uploaded a screenshot, taken by me, but from a "GFDL" program. So, I click on the own work link, but there's not the right template available. So, I go back and click on the screenshot link. Still no luck. When I click on Linux software, it says that it's copyrighted, meaning I can't use it for all purposes? It's fucking GFDL software available to everyone. Man, you wannabe lawyers really need to stop trolling new users whenever they try to upload an image on your site. You're a bunch of hypocrites, pretending like you're defending a "free" encyclopedia, but really pushing your own political beliefs on people. You make yourselves feel important by deleting other people's images. I'm sure you'll delete mine, too, because you're such big assholes. Only paranoid Stallman fanboys are welcome on this site, it seems.--Knowhands enjoykeep (talk) 02:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

The "It is entirely my own work" specifies "I created it, own all the rights to it, and have not used anyone else's work in making it" and clearly you did use someone else's work (OpenSUSE) so that link wasn't appropriate. That's why there was no appropriate template. On the Linux template that you eventually found you should have noticed that it says "If this is a screenshot of free software (GPL, BSD, etc.) do not use this template! Use the license tag that correspond to the license instead, optionally alongside {{Free screenshot}} to categorize as a free screenshot. If you look at the image that you replaced (Image:Opensuse 10.3 first-boot.png)[1] you can see how it is used. --AussieLegend (talk) 07:10, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh. Hello AussieLegend. I didn't know that you had this page on your watch list. I'm sure you're not just checking my contribution log every few hours so you can follow me around, are you?
{{Free screenshot}}! I should have known! Maybe you people should have just put that in the drop-down list like the old days instead of making us go through a trap? Don't think I don't know why this page is here.--Knowhands enjoykeep (talk) 07:24, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
The dropdown is at Special:Upload, just like it always was. --Carnildo (talk) 07:41, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

...but yes, I too recently found out, to my annoyance, that {{free screenshot}} was not actually listed as an option if one selects "screenshot" from the upload wizard. Which, in a way, is hardly surprising, given that the "screenshot" link just leads to the generic "nonfree" variant of the upload form (MediaWiki:Uploadtext/en-nonfree and MediaWiki:Licenses/en-nonfree). Perhaps that page should at least link to commons:Commons:Upload/screenshot? —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 08:00, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, I'll try fixing this later; {{free screenshot}} should be listed under screenshot; which means changing the page it links too, GDonato (talk) 14:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Y Done by creating lang for "en-screenshot" GDonato (talk) 15:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vasko Ivanoski

JAs sum jas ti si ti! NIe sme ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vivanosk (talk • contribs) 12:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "With permission" doesn't give any good options

This wizard is hugely confusing to new users, because none of the licensing options in the dropdown actually allow the image to remain on Wikipedia. Indeed, anyone using this page will virtually guarantee that the image is speedily deleted, even if it the owner of the image was fine with commercial use and modification, or had specifically said to them that it was released under a commercial-use-friendly CC or GFDL license.

The only way I can upload an image that I know is under the GFDL or a CC license is if I say it is entirely my own work, which it is not - therefore I'll never go down that route, and so will never be able to select these licensing options. Only users who "found it on a website" or "from somewhere else" will be given the right options. And yes, I'm aware of the big text below that says "Do you already know the license and are familiar with our image policies?", but that won't do a lick of good when the user has already clicked on a link without reading that far. GreenReaper (talk) 19:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree. The page absolutely sucks. It is misleading, the list of options is incomplete, and I didn't even notice the upload form until GreenReaper pointed it out above. The page implies that the options provided are the only options available. Also, the whole thing looks like a great big trick question. The list lets too many image types fall through its cracks. What about an image that is a modification of another image already on Wikipedia? Or an image that is a composite of other images on Wikipedia? What are you supposed to click on for those? The Transhumanist    20:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Initial problem: Fixed GDonato (talk) 16:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A request for unprotection has been made

at the Administrators' noticeboard. I'm inclined to unprotecting the Project page (reducing it to semi-protection actually) so fixes/additions/copyediting can be made by editors other than those with administrator rights. Keeping in mind that anything done can be redone, or undone, are there any strong objections/rationales for why I shouldn't just remove protection? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Given the coverage of this page it would be prone to abuse. WP:PROT says that pages which are very visible can be permanently protected, and in this case I think it should be. I would hate for everyone trying to upload an image to see a message from grawp, even if only for a minute or two. 1 != 2 21:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Having read the Admin thread, I support reduction to semi-protection for the reasons set out by the transhumanist. We can place the page on our watchlists & up the protection if necessary. There does appear to be work required which TTH is volunteering to do. --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Agreed. Until 1== 2, would you be more comfortable with a limited duration, say a week, and then re upping the protection? (and of course sooner if it gets madly vandalized). Three editors (Myself, Transh, and Tagishsimon are volunteering to watchlist. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
I really don't think it is a good idea, and several people at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Wikipedia:Upload agree it is not a good idea. There is no reason this cannot be done in a sandbox then put in by an admin. 1 != 2 23:10, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
This page only gets ~10 thousand hits a day. There are literally tens of thousands of pages that get more traffic than that. There is no reason this page couldn't be managed through permanent semi-protection, as are all the other pages linked to in the sidebar except Main Page and Wikipedia:Contact us. Dragons flight (talk) 23:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, there are only around 200 pages that get more hits than Wikipedia:Upload. Please see the top 1000 pages listed here: http://stats.grok.se/en/top --Timeshifter (talk) 21:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Be sure to keep an eye on it, or even better use a sandbox and the {{editprotected}} template. 1 != 2 00:13, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The problem with this page

The main problem with this page is that admins, the only ones who can directly edit it, aren't actively improving the page.

Don't expect non-admin editors to propose drafts for this page, or to use proposal templates, etc. That's inefficient, and this is a wiki. Most of us like to jump onto a page and fix grammatical errors and such as we run across them. We avoid extra hoops - there are lots of pages for us to work on without them.

If you don't let editors on this page to improve it, then you should accept the responsibility of improving it yourselves.

The page is confusing, and is poorly written.

Any experienced copy-editor can see the problems with this page.

You need to find some admins amongst yourselves who are good copy-editors, and improve this page so that it is clear and easy to use.

And so that nobody falls through the cracks.

And then you need to support the page with the same tender loving care that editors provide to unprotected pages all over Wikipedia, including the unprotected high-traffic pages listed on the sidebar. The ongoing support given to this page doesn't come close to that received by those pages.

Good luck.

The Transhumanist    19:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Without you detailing any changes you would like to see, it is difficult for me to tell what needs improved. After I made the improvements requested in the above sections, I don't really see much else wrong with it, GDonato (talk) 20:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Y Done The Transhumanist    07:06, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia talk:Upload/Sandbox

{{editprotected}}

I started a sandbox page and linked to it from the top of this talk page.

On the sandbox page "I don't know who the author is, or I don't know what license applies" is currently a redlink. I copied the wiki code from the source view of Wikipedia:Upload.

To fix this problem an admin needs to change the underlying wikilink code at Wikipedia:Upload from

[[/Unknown author or license]]

to

[[Wikipedia:Upload/Unknown author or license]]

That makes the link transferable to sandbox pages. --Timeshifter (talk) 21:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Y Done —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 22:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! --Timeshifter (talk) 15:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk page links from Special:Upload and Wikipedia:Upload

I linked to this talk page from Special:Upload and Wikipedia:Upload.

Note: For questions or comments about the various upload forms please go to Wikipedia talk:Upload.

Here is a version with the link added to the bottom of Wikipedia:Upload. Here is a version for Special:Upload. --Timeshifter (talk) 00:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] F.R.I.E.N.D.S - MYSORE

It is a big group of friends from mysore .. now located in various parts of karnataka ... They show their unique way of bondage and they always keep in touch with different way!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesmilemaker (talk • contribs) 09:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC)