Talk:Unterseeboot 47 (1938)

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Contents 1 Bravery 2 How? 3 Fate: discrepancy 4 Removed 4.1 Warships 4.2 Convoy Ships 5 Fair use rationale for Image:U47logo.gif 6 Crew 7 Fair use rationale for Image:U-47atScapaFlow.jpeg 8 Fair use rationale for Image:U47logo.gif 9 Fair use rationale for Image:CrewofU-47.jpg

[edit] Bravery

Gunther Prien and his men are very brave to have attempted this raid. Fighterforfreedom 00:07, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Please do not feed the trolls. Xyl 54 (talk) 14:14, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How?

How did they manage to get past the patrols, and sunken ships in Scapa Flow? Then get back out? El benderson 17:10, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, it wasn't easy. Xyl 54 11:58, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

PS try here for a full account. Xyl 54 12:18, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fate: discrepancy

The article states: To date, there is no record of what happened to the U-47 or her 45 crewmen, though a variety of possibilities exist, including mines, a mechanical failure, a victim of her own torpedoes or possibly a later attack that didn't confirm any kills - by the corvette team of HMS Camellia and HMS Arbutus.

This is contradicted by Dan van der Vat's Atlantic Campaign - Page 169 - US Edition ISBN 0060159677 Harper & Row, Publishers, saying clearly that U-47 was sunk near Iceland on May 8, 1947 by HMS Wolverine and HMS Verity Alex Feldstein 13:21, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll reword the article to be clear there is no official record. Sherurcij ^{(Speaker for the Dead)} 13:38, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Correct, Dan van der Vat's book reflects the commonly held view; however, more recent books, such as Kemp (U-boats Destroyed (1997)) and Neistle (German U-Boat Losses (1998)) suggest that the boat attacked by HMS Wolverine was U-A, not U-47, and that the cause of U-47's loss is unknown. Xyl 54 11:57, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed

I replaced the information below with the table, but it still has convoy details for people who might want to write about U-47's operations, so I've moved it below

[edit] Warships

Confirmed kills by the U-47 included

• Arandora Star
• HMS Royal Oak

[edit] Convoy Ships

• Balmoralwood - HX48
• Conch - HX90
• Elmbank - HX72
• La Estancia - HX79
• Shirak - HX79
• Wandby - HX79
• Whitford Point - HX79
• Bilderdijk - HX79

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:U47logo.gif

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[edit] Crew

I removed this section because Wikipedia is not a memorial and we do not list full casualty reports for other battles, engagements or conflicts. There is a discussion about this (ironically, on the Royal Oak talk page) Xyl 54 (talk) 14:09, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:U-47atScapaFlow.jpeg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 08:46, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:U47logo.gif

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:CrewofU-47.jpg

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