Talk:University of Tulsa

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[edit] Gary Condit

Hunh? I'll leave it in there, for now. but I don't get any sort of indication that he went to TU...

[edit] A. G. Mojtabai

There is an orphan article concerning writer in residence A. G. Mojtabai at the University of Tulsa. It would be helpful if someone could either find a spot for it, it perhaps make it a candidate for deletion. --Randolph 18:11, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Grace Mojtabai no longer teaches at University of Tulsa, so I have deleted that reference from the main article and altered her biographical entry. Poldy Bloom 04:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

A user reverted my changes regarding A. G. Mojtabai. She no longer teaches at the University of Tulsa. She has been replaced in the Department of English by Claudia B. Nogueira. I have re-deleted her from the list of faculty. Poldy Bloom 04:49, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mascots

Does anyone have a list of former TU mascots? --Clydeiii 12:02, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] University Motto

Interesting. It appears that sources disagree on the uni motto. The latest NCS self-study report suggests that either the traditional motto of "Wisdom, Faith, Service" has been changed, or has been augmented with "Where Education Meets the World."

From: [1]

For a half-decade, the phrase "Where Education Means the World" has been used as a motto for expressing the University’s interest and activities in "global" education.

Doesn't really say that it is the motto, just saying that it's been used as _a_ motto, whereas later, it states that:

Therefore, the University’s motto accurately reflects many of its activities, opportunities, and highly publicized events and is therefore not misleading.

Which could both imply that it is now the university's motto, or that they're just refering to the previously said motto, which may or may not be the official motto of the uni..

[2] whereas here, we have an article that states that "Faith, Wisdom, Service" is the university motto, and that they have been using it as a guide for the new commitment pledge. And here [3]

In all, it's rather confusing... Madmaxmarchhare 04:59, 8 November 2005 (UTC)


I agree, it is rather confusing, so I called the University of Tulsa to check it. They say that their motto is "Faith, Wisdom, Service." We do need to change the infobox from the HTML format to the standard university format at some point, and if that's the only problem we had with it, I'd like to reinsert the standard university infobox with the correct motto. Thanks for calling attention to it! Vontafeijos 16:43, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Also, is the University of Tulsa really affiliated with the Presbyterian Church? Their website says that they're "Non-denominational", but that they were founded by the Presbyterian Church.

  • I think the other is just some sort of temporary or promo motto, or something else. Church affiliations are historical ones, and doesn't mean that the uni is sectarian or anything else. So, it's traditional to list it that way. Also, I'm not sure if we necessarily have to switch to the standard info box. Is there any reason that we must? Many pages are not using the standard, and they are often able to better integrate the table into the flow of the page that way. Personally, I think the standard one is a bit ugly... Madmaxmarchhare 21:38, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
  • I'm going to have to disagree here. The standard info box is easier to modify and is less intimidating to new users; HTML tables' codes are really ugly. You can also see that most university pages do use some form of the standard table, which gives Wikipedia a uniform look and feel. All the information that we want to put in the infobox can easily fit into the standard format. Vontafeijos 22:04, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

I think the standard infobox looks better. Camerafiend 22:01, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

    • Better than..? Again, I think the one here needs to change, I just start to cringe when I hear about standards, etc. here. There are actually other ways to have a more standard look and feel without pigeon-holing ourselves. For instance, many of the Florida unis use: FLSUS_taxobox (search on it), which I think looks better than the standard box without having HTML code (which is a good point, BTW). I'm also not sure if the standard textbox is as common as you think. I still think there's a way to have an HTML-less table (if that's in fact that goal) that's fairly uniform (if not nearly completely uniform), but doesn't straightjacket us. Madmaxmarchhare 02:16, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
    • The FLSUS_taxobox is fine if you want to put that one in. My concern was twofold: one, to get rid of the HTML altogether (which is unattractive in appearance and has ugly code) and two, using a table that looks like the tables that other universities use. The FLSUS_taxobox satisfies both concerns. Thanks. Vontafeijos 02:34, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
      • Ok, let's do that (I don't have any more time tonight). The only last thing I can think of is to try the seal in there both in thumbnail format and without.. it tends, in my opinion, to look tacky when it's in thumbnail mode.. The discussion technique works, and everyone is happy! Good workin' with ya, Von.. Madmaxmarchhare 05:54, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
      • Problem. The FLSUS_taxobox has info about Florida universities at the bottom of it that I can't get rid of, which is bad. Any other suggestions? I hate to bring it up again, but the standard university infobox might be the only option. Vontafeijos 06:28, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
        • There's always a way.. here's the same one w/o the FL stuff: {{Template:Univ taxobox | Michigan uses it, I believe Madmaxmarchhare 07:07, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
        • It worked! Thanks! Vontafeijos 21:19, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox University

Hello, I am working with several Wikiprojects in an attempt to standardize all University articles. The template that this page now uses, Template:Univ taxobox, has been depreciated. The standard is Template:Infobox University. Due to the fact that my infobox changes have been reverted, I come here to build a consensus. Thank you. American Patriot 1776 13:46, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I only wish there was some way to change some of the fonts, etc. in that box as it still seems awfully clunky/ugly to me in many ways. It's probably a tidal wave that can't be stopped, anyhow, so I'll re-revert.. Thanks for taking the time to discuss. Madmaxmarchhare 17:53, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Awwww, don't think of it as a tidal wave that can't be stopped, thisnk of it as a tidal wave that you can an amazing ride on! I don't know, I just made that up... :) American Patriot 1776 03:03, 28 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] TU LAW

I just want to mention that TU law should be recognized as a world class law school and should be mentioned in the article. TU law is regarded as one of the highest ranking law schools in the country.

http://www.ilrg.com/rankings/law/index.php/4/desc/GPALow

Ok, since you can edit the article, put in what you'd like everyone to know about the law school. Madmaxmarchhare 15:52, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] University of Tulsa Template

I've put together a template for the University of Tulsa; we should try to get articles together for the red-links, at least as stubs, so we can get the parameters of Tulsa coverage down. matt91486 23:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Athletics: Size of School

I feel like the statement recently added to the page about TU being the school with the smallest student enrollment in the NCAA Bowl Sub-division to be something worthy of mention on this page, and not just on the Tulsa Golden Hurricane page. It gives an idea of the size of the school, coupled with its dedication to athletic competition that I think speaks toward the over-all focus and atmosphere at the university. Thoughts? Nik-renshaw (talk) 19:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I just took it out because it had already been moved. As far as putting it back in goes, I'd be opposed to it, personally. There's another school in C-USA (Rice) that can claim a smaller undergrad enrollment than TU, and with enrollment numbers changing each semester, the school with the smallest enrollment in D-I BCS can change too. That said, I don't object to it being added back with a current, verifiable source. -steventity (talk) 12:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)