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Atention: Serbo-Milosheviq Propaganda

No fiction, please.

This is getting more and more ridiculous with every passing day. Are we going to have the University of Barcelona in Belgrade soon? Grow up!

The University of Prishtina, is in Prishtina, it is named after the city where it is located and the staff who teach in it name it. If they decide this is the University of Prishtina, so it will be. Nobody, not me nor you can change it's name just because you don't like it.

You got away with too many things, but not with this one. -- Kosovar 00:25, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Good job Kosovar! We have to tell that Serbian nationalist User:Nikola_Smolenski that “University of Pristina” does not exist. The United Nations administer Kosova and they have accepted the university with the name shown on the main article "University of Prishtina". Also, no one is supposed to add a Serbian name for the university because it does not offer studies in Serbian, and a Serbian official name does not exist. This is like adding to Harvard “(Serbian: Harvard Univerzitetu)...”. Forgive me for comparing Havard with Prishtina, but in this case it is not a miss-leading comparison.

Once again, please do not vandalize with those claims that the university was moved somewhere else in Serbia and a parallel university was founded then in Prishtina. If Serbs really need a high quality university like Prishtina, I wish their government could offer them scholarships to study in Kosova’s capital. It would be a very good experience, not only for Serbs, but for nationals of other countries as well to study or work in a city like Prishtina. They would be fascinated by the geniality of its people.--Getoar 05:47, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Nikola, Please face the facts. "Universiteti i Prishtinës" is the official name accepted by UNMIK and the world. UNMIK is sovereign of Kosovo and thus internationally recognised.--Epirus 02:51, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Contents

Cleaning up the mess

I have merged both pages about this university. After studying the edit history of both pages, I believe that most of the contributions to this page have been done while it was at University of Priština, so I have put the moved version at that location. Also, that is the version of the page without the heavy-handed notice at the top. I did not like that attempt at forcing the issue. University of Prishtina is now a redirect. As a compromise, I have changed the name of the university in the article to "University of Prishtina" everywhere. I hope this solution is equally unacceptable to both parties. Please start discussing your differences on this talk page. In the meanwhile, the redirect is protected, so the page cannot be moved back without the help of an administrator. You may still edit the article, if you want. Eugene van der Pijll 19:58, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

UNIVERSITY OF PRISHTINA is the official name of the university that has its own senate with the right to change. University of Prishtina is located in Prishtina and recognised as public university by UNMIK, which administers Kosovo, so there is no reason to consider parallel or even illegal something that is supported by the United Nations. Furthermore, I am ready to request an official document from the Ministry of Education of Kosovo as a proof for University of Prishtina.

I can only repeat what I said to Asim Led: "I do not actually care what the location of the article should be, according to the university itself, the Serbs, the Albanians, the UN, or even the Wikipedia naming conventions. My only purpose is to stop the edit war, and I believe that my actions will have that effect. I fully believe that an edit war about the title of an article is far more harmful to Wikipedia than an article that has a slightly incorrect name." Eugene van der Pijll 12:43, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

How come you argue that most contributions were made to "University of Priština", while I wrote almost the entire article. I support the official name University of Prishtina.--Epirus 01:07, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

I moved the article you wrote to University of Priština, later you continued to edit the redirect. This article is indeed the article you wrote, and so has more contributions.
The official name is Universiteti i Prishtinës in Albanian language; when that is rendered in English language, it becomes University of Priština, as the city called Prishtina in Albanian is most oftenly called Priština in English. As the article about the city is at Priština, it is only logical that article about the university is too. Nikola 12:24, 10 December 2005 (UTC)


(To Epirus:) The version of the article after I merged both pages is located here.
  • The first paragraph of that article is present in the "Priština" page before the "Prishtina" version appears [1].
  • The next two paragraphs were introduced first in the "Priština" version [2], and then in the "Prishtina" version [3].
  • The fourth paragraph (statistics) and the list of faculties was introduced on the "Prishtina" page: [4].
  • And that is actually all the useful work that has been done on the article.
I think I must have overlooked that last contribution. Doesn't actually surprise me: the edit history of the article is split into two, which is very inconvenient. And that is the whole point why the page should not have been moved in the way it was. That is also why I've taken these steps to make sure there is only one article from now on. I had hoped that this would have been possible without a merge of the histories, but ... sigh ... it isn't.
I don't care what the name of the article is. If you want it to be at the other location, you can use the correct procedure described at WP:RM. Eugene van der Pijll 12:43, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Mate,

I wrote the entire article except the first paragraph. It may have initially submitted to University of Pristina, but I moved it to University of Prishtina. I also used the Albanian names for the cities to be original. If you go to the Technical School in Ferizaj you will find written above the main gate:

Universiteti i Prishtinës Shkolla e lartë teknike Ferizaj

You are not able to find it in Serbian.--Epirus 17:47, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Unfortunately, this Wikipedia isn't in Albanian. In English, the inscription would be translated as

University of Priština Technical school Uroševac

Nikola 10:16, 11 December 2005 (UTC)


What in the world are you talking about? I live in the United States and was here throughout the entire Kosova crisis. I think I know what I'm saying when I tell you that no way in hell is Priština the most common term for the city in the english-speaking world. On TV reports, newspapers, magazines, atlases - everywhere - the city is almost always listed as "Prishtina". The overwhelming majority of Americans have no idea what "š" is or how its pronounced, so its been replaced with "sh" to mimic the sound. Furthermore, if you check on google, "city 'Priština'" comes up with 15,700 hits (the top one being your own wikipedia article and the various mimic sites that follow) while "city 'Prishtina'" comes up with 103,000. To say that "Priština" is the most common name for the city in english is simply dead wrong. Asim Led 18:35, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Actually, "city priština" gives 675,000, which includes "pristina" but, as you said, majority of Americans have no idea what "š" is. The article was on "Pristina" but since UTF-8 is introduced to Wikipedia, we are moving all the articles to versions with diacritics, you certainly noticed that. Nikola 21:47, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
And even so, "city Prishtina" comes up with 100,000 more results. Asim Led 22:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Google has recently started searching for alternate spellings of terms, so actually both queries include both terms, with slightly different results (f.e. if you google for "city pristina" the first result that comes out is "Prishtina is the capital and the largest city of Kosova"). When you force exact match of pristina or prishtina, they get 686,000 and 103,000 hits, respectively. Nikola 09:21, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Both universities should be described here

I don't see why it is so hard? There are two Univieristies of Pristina in this moment. This article should describe both of them in NPOV manner. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 05:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Exactly, they only split off when the article gets too big, not when we have a difference of opinion. See POV fork. Sam Spade 13:18, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Bulk reverting

Please don't bulk revert like this. "A more objective view" is a very subjective thing. Instead, and by way of trying to take the least conflict-prone route to your goal, drop a note on this talk page, explain what is wrong, what you'd like to see changed and how you would suggest changing it. Simple reverting of someone's work is rather insulting: there is a human on the end of the work you summarily remove without discussion and it doesn't exactly leave them feeling encouraged. So, User:Pjetër Bogdani, I'm going to ask you to explain here in detail why you bulk reverted. By way of a gesture, you might consider reinstating the reverted text whilst it is discussed. -Splashtalk 14:14, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Revert warring

I have reverted Pjetër Bogdani's revert because his revert removed a lot of material. As I'm unfamiliar with the subject and I see nationalist icons with regard to Κοσσυφοπέδιο (I'm using the Greek name so as to avoid taking sides) on the userpages of Nikola Smolenski and Pjetër Bogdani, I suspect that this is a revert war of a nationalist nature please forgive any of my ignorance.

  • This page should be moved to University of Prishtina as that is the English and is easy for non-Slavic users (who won't have the letter š on their keyboards) to type.
  • Both universities should be mentioned and described explaining fully the current position: that one is recognised and one is not, but they both exist.
  • The officially recognised by UNMIK university should be dealt with first on the page and the Serbian university after it.

--Latinus (talk (el:)) 00:11, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I am glad that you are willing to help with this article.
  • I believe that the article should remain here, as "Pristina" is more used in English than Prishtina ([5]=407,000; [6]=87,500), and since Wikipedia moved to UTF-8 we are using correct diacritics in names (for example, article on Pjetër Bogdani is at Pjetër Bogdani and not Pjeter Bogdani despite the fact that nearly all non-Slavic users won't have letter ë on their keyboards). For the record, I think that the practice is stupid, but as long as it exists, we should follow it.
  • Both universities are recognised. As I wrote, according to[7], in 2002 UNMIK recognised Serbian university. Serbian government recognises only Serbian university. Nikola 07:30, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

POV

The way Nikola Smolenski writes about the University of Prishtina is not much different from Milosevic's companions. It seems like the establishment of the Albanian university in Prishtina hurts Nikola because it enlightened the Kosovar Albanians and helped them keep alive their national identity. Please do not try to identify the Albanian efforts for education with revolutionary or terrorist movements in the world.--Pjetër Bogdani III 00:48, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I see the problem here. Nikola, your version is hopelessly POV, when you say that a currently disputed territory is "in the province of Serbia called Kosovo (officially Kosovo and Metohia)", you're asking for trouble. And Pjetër, please stop with the nationalist drivel; "enlightened the Kosovar Albanians and helped them keep alive their national identity" (at least you're not putting it in the article). I see the problem here and I think that both versions are defective. I'm sure this can be solved if both sides make a good faith attempt to compromise. Nikola, your version is very POV and you know it (it's impossible not to), however it contains important information, which is lacking in Pjetër's. I think the best thing to do is to keep Nikola's version and to purge the obviously excessive Serbian POV and acknoledge the fact that Κοσσυφοπέδιο is a disputed territory. Don't claim it's part of Serbia, nor claim it isn't - evade the issue altogether! Pjetër, can you do this? Revert to Nikola's version and remove the Serbian POV. The Serbian University should be mentioned and all information we have should be included; regardless if it is recognized by UNMIK or not. --Latinus (talk (el:)) 01:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
PS I still think that all this should be moved to University of Prishtina. --Latinus (talk (el:)) 01:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
I don't think that the University of Pristina could be called as Albanian effort for education, as it was established by the University of Belgrade, but I fully agree that it was very stupid thing to do and should never be repeated.
Latinus, you said above that you are unfamiliar with the subject; if you are unfamiliar with the subject, how could you know which version is POV? Kosovo is a province of Serbia, and saying so isn't POV, and that very phrase is a result of a compromise. OK, maybe we could evade the issue here, saying just that it is in Kosovo and not elaborating (but this shouldn't be done on most similar articles).
I based my version mostly on[8], which is, most probably, account of a person who works in the university (or worked in 2000). I wouldn't call it POV, it is critical towards Serbian government. Nikola 07:45, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
I wish I could comment on that, but I really don't know. This is something you'll have to work out between yourselves - all I know is that Kosovo is a disputed territory (in the sense that some people want independence and some don't). It is legally part of Serbia now, but I think it would be best not to rub it in. --Latinus 22:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
You're saying that as if it is something bad. Nikola 06:42, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Stop!

People are blindly reverting this article, most notably Pjeter who does not even take the time to write an edit summary and Nikola who has been warring about this since the inception of the article. Since I think that protecting this page would merely stem the fighting until I unprotect it, I am going to take the following, fairly hard-hearted steps:

  1. Revert to a version prior to any of the recent edit warring.
  2. Block, for 12 hours for disrupting the normal course of editing on Wikipedia, anyone who reverts the article without initiating, or continuing discussion on this page.

-Splashtalk 03:30, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Right, so I had to go a very long way back, but I'm fairly sure the information in that stub is accurate. When adding information, please stick firmly and absolutely to simple, factual information about the University. If you have an exceptionally good reason to introduce anything that is likely to result in wars over national issues, think twice and then decide not to do it. -Splashtalk 03:37, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

And there we go: I have just blocked Pjeter for 12 hours as a result of his last edit. The version he reverted to included, nearly verbatim, every single fact in the stub I reverted to, and yet he called it "unacceptable" and reverted, apparently completely automatically. Note that I am not reverting to a preferred version of mine, but to one from which I plan the article to be rebuilt carefully and peacefully. When I say "Stop!" I mean it. -Splashtalk 04:32, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I've studied the versions in the history in some detail now. It seems that the problems stem from whether there are one or two universities. The best I can manage to understand is that the versions e.g. [9] and [10] (by the different editors) actually agree that it was split up in the '90s and is still administered as two largely distinct organisations. The reasons for the split appear to be disagreed upon in their detail.

Pjeter's preferred version appears to not mention the internal structure of the Serbian branch of things while acknowledging that it exists. I'd be interested to hear why that is. I wonder perhaps do we need three seperate sections of the article: one regarding the history (we at least agree on 1970, split in the '90s and there being Serbian and Albanina administered parts), and then one each about the two branches? It strikes me that Nikola's preferred version is significantly better referenced than Pjeter's, and deals with both sides of the question. Why does Pjeter's only do this partially? -Splashtalk 05:00, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Would it be acceptable if, as first, I would state that there are two organisations using the name, add the lists of their faculties, and return external links to their websites? Nikola 14:23, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
I'd like Pjeter to reply, since it's with him that you have the dispute. However, as far as I can tell, Pjeter's version does acknowledge both organisations, although I find it somewhat unclear in what sense it does so. Do the two parts have distinct, identifiable physical locations? Do they also, usefully, have their own websites that can be linked to? -Splashtalk 18:55, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes, they do. Albanian university is located in Pristina; Serbian is in various cities and villages in northern Kosovo with seat in Kosovska Mitrovica. Albanian university's website is at http://www.uni-pr.edu and Serbian's is at http://www.pr.ac.yu though it's defunct most of the time (my guess - they're on dialup) so I suggest linking to Internet Archive. Nikola 09:15, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello! I think the Albanian university located in Prishtina (under the name University of Prishtina) and the Serbian university - University of Pristina at Mitrovica - should have their own separate articles. A link to disambiguation at the top of each article would obliterate any confusion.

I am trying to make a compromise here. Then, let's have two different articles:

1) University of Prishtina (for the Albanian university, as it is located in Prishtina), and 2) University of Pristina at Mitrovica (for the Serbian university; it is not located in Prishtina, but bears the name of the city). Lecheim!--Pjetër Bogdani III 23:10, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


I think that's asking for trouble, as it impliedly recognises the Albanian university as the successor to the original University of Priština. I think the first thing to do would be to establish the article's final location. There are two main options:
Your basic Google test reveals the following:
Obviously, University of Priština/Pristina is the most commonly used name in English, so it should be moved there (pending a specified consensus poll).
In my opinion, the article should first be reverted to Nikola's last version because:
  • It contains all the necessary information on both institutions
  • It contains all the information in Pjetër's version
  • It is significantly better written (cited sources etc)
Then, Pjetër can edit it (there will be a temporary revert ceasefire in the meantime, so he can do so freely) so that he can have the chance to remove or reword all the alleged material which is offensive to the Kosovo Albanians (he mentioned that it describes them as communists and identifies Albanian efforts for education with revolutionary and terrorist movements in the world) instead of blindly reverting to his version and removing all the useful information with it. According to Nikola's link [11] both institutions are recognised, so there is no need for us to favour one over the other. Do you agree Pjetër? Time to do some real editing (not reverting) :-) --Latinus 23:49, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

No, I simply do not agree. The article shall remain as it is now until a comprise based on my proposal is reached. University of Prishtina is the official English name of the university located in Prishtina. Furthermore, it is successor of the university founded in 1970, because it is using the same campus, and many of the professors who worked there before 1990 are still working today for UP (Albanian).--Pjetër Bogdani III 00:10, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

I detect an anomaly here, considering that the article on the city is at Priština. Anyhow, as far as I can see, your proposal seems more like advocating content forking and the appropriation of the name by the Albanian university while forcing the Serbian university out of the picture (to a different article) - in other words, presenting an Albanian POV (I may be mistaken of course). As I'm neither Serbian nor Albanian, I thought I may see the bigger picture here - apparently, that may not be the case. Perhaps it's time to see what policy has in store for us. I think we should prepare a comprehensive list of the disputed points and then submit a request for comment and see what other users think. Perhaps, Splash could give his opinion as well (I'm not sure if that'd be appropriate though, considering that he is moderating in this dispute). Do you at least agree to this? --Latinus 00:31, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

I think before we dive into RfCs and things, we should try to give this a good go 'in-house' so to speak. I think the diacritic-or-not in the title of the article is less important than its content. I also think that the idea of splitting things up may make some sense. I can't read the link the Latinus gives above (as Nikola's) but I figure he's reading it correctly. So as I understand things: 1)There was a single UP until the mid-90s 2)Since then, there have been 2 organisations, both of which are still functioning as educational institutions with tens of thousands of students and 3)the 2 organisations operate quite separately from one another. This would seem like good reasons for having 3 article: one on the history of the University of Pri()tina which gives the history from 1970 to mid-90s in reasonable detail without making political judgements. That article woudl then adopt summary style from the mid-90s onwards with a bit of info about each institution coupled with a {{mainarticle}} tag to the article about the seperate article on each. In the 'See also' section of each of the two new articles, they can refer to the other and back to the history article. If it helps with agreement, we can call them 'University of Pri()tina (City1)' and 'University of Pri()tina (City2)' with City1 and City2 replaced appropriately. (Am I right that they are not both in Pri()tina?). Each of those two articles can pick up the history from the mid-90s to today (bearing in mind we are interested simply in documenting in reasonable terms how they come to be) and give an ordinary description of the University as it stands today. -Splashtalk 01:09, 26 February 2006 (UTC) (NB: I'm not saying that this is what we should do, I'm just suggesting based on my understanding and on what might produce something agreeable.)

Yes, your points are correct (except that they operate completely separately from each other). I don't think that it would be a good idea that we split the article into three, because that again implies that neither university is the successor. But maybe we could reorganise this article closely to your suggestion. My suggestion for the introduction:
University of Priština (Latin: Universitas Studiorum Prishtiniensis) is name used by two public universities in Kosovo. The University of Priština was opened in the beginning of 1970[1]. After constitutional changes in Serbia in late 1980s which reduced autonomy of Kosovo and transferred education to the Government of Serbia[ref], the University split into two parts[ref], both using the name "University of Priština": Serbian (Serbian: Универзитет у Приштини), conducting education in Serbian language, which has legal continuity but is expelled from university facilities[1], and Albanian (Albanian: Universiteti i Prishtinës), conducting education in Albanian language[4], using facilities of the original university[ref] and having professors who were laid off in 1990s[ref], but without legal continuity. Both universities are recognised by UNMIK[ref][3], and only Serbian university is recognised by the Government of Serbia[2].
Nikola 09:15, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello everybody! We must get official information from the Ministry of Education in Prishtina. It is this ministry that controls the educational system in Kosovo and not the government of Belgrade. Then, shall we see that the University of Prishtina is the one founded in 1970 and the one in Mitrovica is just another school founded recently. Or better to say, the University of Pristina was founded in 1989 by Milosevic who now has been sent to the Hague. Thus we can say that University of Pristina at Mitrovica is an exiled university, but we should also consider the circumstances in which it went to exile. Do not forget that the Serbian efforts to terminate education in Albanian led to war and because of this war Milosevic's university was thrown away and the University of Prishtina restored on the previous campus.--Pjetër Bogdani III 03:49, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

I like one thing anyway. Nikola left the Latin name there which was initially submitted by an Albanian user and it derives from the logo of the University of Prishtina.--Pjetër Bogdani III 03:49, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Now I have a little question for Splash who should be thanked for his efforts to settle the dispute. For example, there is a little imaginary kingdom called "the Kingdom of Wikipedia". And king George I is dethroned in a proper manner by his opponent, Alexander, who has the support of the majority of the population. In the meantime, George I flees to another country where he organized his government in exile. Who should be considered king of Wikipedia?--Pjetër Bogdani III 03:49, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Actually educational system in Kosovo is controlled by UNMIK, which did delegate a part of its powers to transitional government, but not all of it, as we have seen. What you write about Milosevic is wrong. As the Kingdom of Wikipedia is a part of the Empire of Wikimedia, the king should be whomever the Empire considers to be. Nikola 06:08, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Do you want to claim that all what Milosevic did was right? Killing even his own people? Genocide? Does that sound right to you? And "Kingdom of Wikipedia" was just a name for the imaginary wikipedia. You might want to say that Kosovo should be controlled by Belgrade because it belongs to Serbia according to such and such resolution, but actually it is not controlled by Belgrade. This is how your subjective views can be noticed by everyone. You state in your article that University of Prishtina taught the students about Maoism and Hoxhaism and other communist ideas. You are totally wrong and definitely unable to be backed by references.--Pjetër Bogdani III 04:11, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Once again, understand that the Serbian policy must change totally. If you keep support someone like Milosevic, or his ideology your gates to Europe will always be locked. You can not support a guy who continued where Hitler had left. Just know how backwards has Milosevic left Serbia. Almost the entire world fought him.--Pjetër Bogdani III 04:11, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the University of Pristina was spreading maoism in the 80s, in the same way that University of Belgrade was spreading titoism. My version of the article already had one reference for that:[12], here are some more which mention influence of maoism on Kosovo: [13][14][15].
I don't understand what Serbian policies or necessity of changing them have to do with this article. Nikola 20:07, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

My edits

I have reordered and added information on the Univ.of Prishtina. This information was added using a document that was sent to me by the international office of the University of Prishtina. Should anyone want to see the email, I can provide it on request. Thank you. Ilir pz 16:48, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

The name is :

Helooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is serbian propagander face. They dident pay money to build this UNI, they have stil the banks from the class rooms, they have burned this UNI. And now they say thate this is "UNIVERSITETI OF PRIšTINA". Shame on all wikipedians and the administrator Christ 0 -

The name is: In sq.L = "UNIVERSITETI I PRISHTINËS" IN latin.L = "UNIVERSITAS STUDIORUM PRISHTINIENSIS" - Hipi

The serbian propaganders dont know to translet from albanian. See : Serbian: Univerzitet u Prištini in english University in Prishtina

Go and learn albanian languge, so you cann bee more effectiv hhahah. a

PLEASE

ALL I CAN DO HERE IS QUOTE THIS GUY:

Good job Kosovar! We have to tell that Serbian nationalist User:Nikola_Smolenski that “University of Pristina” does not exist. The United Nations administer Kosova and they have accepted the university with the name shown on the main article "University of Prishtina". Also, no one is supposed to add a Serbian name for the university because it does not offer studies in Serbian, and a Serbian official name does not exist. This is like adding to Harvard “(Serbian: Harvard Univerzitetu)...”. Forgive me for comparing Havard with Prishtina, but in this case it is not a miss-leading comparison.

Once again, please do not vandalize with those claims that the university was moved somewhere else in Serbia and a parallel university was founded then in Prishtina. If Serbs really need a high quality university like Prishtina, I wish their government could offer them scholarships to study in Kosova’s capital. It would be a very good experience, not only for Serbs, but for nationals of other countries as well to study or work in a city like Prishtina. They would be fascinated by the geniality of its people.--Getoar 05:47, 21 October 2005 (UTC)


AND IN ADDITION TO THAT: THE KOSOVAR GOVERNMENT IS ABLE AND WILLING TO FOUND THE UNIVERSITY OF PRISHTINA OR THE KOSOVAR UNIVERSITY IN ANY SERBIAN CITY. WHY NOT? LIKE THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK IN SKOPJE. THIS WOULD BE FOR THOSE NATIONALS OF SERBIA WHO DREAM OF STUDYING IN KOSOVO/EUROPE AND DO NOT HAVE THE CHANCE TO DO IT, SO THEY CAN FEEL A LITTLE OF THAT AT HOME. BUT JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW, IF SERBS MISUSE THE NAME PRISHTINA THEN THEY'LL HAVE THEIR..... KICKED. --Pjetër Bogdani III 00:29, 23 August 2006 (UTC)