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University of Louisville was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Reviewed version: July 9, 2006
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To-do list for University of Louisville: edit · history · watch · refresh
  • Change lists into conversational text and other appropriate formats.
  • Expand history.
  • More extensively cover UofL's library systems, especially its buildings, collections and Minerva.
  • Convert news references to use the "cite news" template.

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[edit] Municipal?

If I'm not mistaken, the University of Louisville was, before 1970, actually a municipal university and not a state one (and the article suggests this fact by mentioning the financial troubles due to the suburban movement). In other words, the university was funded by the City of Louisville, and students within municipal boundaries paid less to attend. If this is the case, mention of this fact should be made in the article because it's not clear. This is a significant fact because few municipal universities and colleges exist in the US. UL's original status as a municipal university makes it unique, despite the fact that it is now part of the state system. ---DCB11

[edit] U of L

Yes, in the United States "U of L" most often refers to the University of Louisville, so there's no problem with that link redirecting here. However, there should also be a U of L disambiguation page listing other universities that may use that initial. Phoenix2 23:35, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Good idea. – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 15:45, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 10/20/05

Famous alumni include these people?

Harriette Simpson Arnow - never heard of her

James Gilbert Baker - maybe great in his field, but never heard of him

Terry Bisson - never heard of him/her

Ray Buchanan, Mark Clayton, Stefan LeFors - all went to the NFL, but are far from famous

Paul Cameron - who is that?

John A. Logan - historically significant in a minor way, but famous?

Adam Smith - the kid ran a joke of a campaign for a seat in congress and was washed out, only getting about a third of the vote. That doesn't make him famous.

Erik Watts - professional wrestler? Come on...

(preceding unsigned comment by 4.225.120.199 (talk · contribs) ) 02:49, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Separate Page for Athletics?

Does anyone else think that there should be a separate page for Athletics, titled "Louisville Cardinals"?

[edit] Date linking conflict

Please keep this page out of the current date linking edit war between User:Rebecca and User:Bobblewik. This page is up for Good Article submission, and your nonsense could effect this pages approval. 65.142.158.113 18:31, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Bobblewik is following the guidelines on year links. Further, it's not the end of the world if an article isn't listed as good. If at first you don't succeed... —  Stevie is the man!  Talk | Work 18:51, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Note, I am not participating in this edit conflict except to say that the guidelines are on Bobbiewik's side. —  Stevie is the man!  Talk | Work 18:58, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
It has been "up for submission" for some time. Maybe GA staus will be effected soon. Rich Farmbrough 22:54 7 July 2006 (GMT).

[edit] Largest

... the U.S.'s largest Victorian era National Preservation District.

This is a little misleading, the ref says "Old Louisville is the third-largest National Preservation District in the nation, and the largest Victorian district in the United States. " Rich Farmbrough 23:02 7 July 2006 (GMT).

[edit] Good Article nomination has failed

The Good article nomination for University of Louisville has failed, for the following reason(s):

First, the article contains far too many lists. Several and interspersed in the article, some can be converted to tables (such as maybe some summaries from Enrollment stats), some should be put into text (libraries and schools, though should probably just be text if not notable enough for seperate article, use outside link as ref), or just removed (as in DYK section or Greek Life). Again, the DYK section just doesn't belong and should be removed even if you convert the list to text. The enrollment statistics section needs a serious overhaul with some actual text summary, and some of the information should be removed into a more comprehensive split-off like List of enrollment statistics for the University of Louisville. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, the history section needs major improvements. The first 170 years of the schools history are crushed into 4 paragraphs, meaning in that section roughly 42 years of history got one paragraph. Following that, the most recent 35 years get almost twice the coverage those first 170 did. The older history needs expanssion and the newer history could probably use some trimming to remove nn details. Staxringold talkcontribs 22:26, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good for now

Thanks to everyone for improving this article. I would prefer that such items as "Did you know.." be left in, even if it doesn't meet the Wiki Style Manual, because this adds a lot of misc. info that would be akward to place anywhere else. Dido with enrollment stats, although a small beginning paragraph might be nice.

The "Greek Life" section should be converted into a broader "Student Life" section, which should discuss the number of campus clubs, why students like U of L (most would say it is a big school with a small school feel, altough that is uncitable), and the fact that compared to other schools, its student life is still lacking due to 60% of students being commuters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.138.68.165 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Speed School?

I see a little bit of bias in having the first picture of UofL's campus being the Speed School of engineering. I know that the Speed School guys/gals are sometimes a little over-eager and may place this at the top because they see this as priority, but I for one, believe this should not take priority. This is especially true considering that there is a picture of the SAC (Student Activities Center) in the article which is, historically so, a center hub for students from all of the schools. I am thinking of switching the places of the Speed School picture and the SAC picture because of these reasons, any debate? ---Blindbug 19:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Old Louisville Student population

The source for the approximate number of U of L students comes from census data at the census tract level. The problem is that there are four tracts within O.L., so it would be hard to reference both all of them and then a block map to prove that they belong to O.L. I have the exact numbers somewhere, but I think there was about 3,600 public college students in those 4 tracts, I conservatively assume 80% are U of L.

Here is a sample for tract 52: 52: http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/QTTable?_bm=y&-context=qt&-qr_name=DEC_2000_SF3_U_QTP19&-ds_name=DEC_2000_SF3_U&-CONTEXT=qt&-tree_id=403&-all_geo_types=N&-geo_id=14000US21111005200&-search_results=01000US&-format=&-_lang=en

4.225.123.77 01:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC)!

It is impossible to give an exact number for U of L students in Old Louisville as the census numbers are considered accurate for April 1, 2000 only and, as most students are renting as opposed to owning, the actual numbers fluctuate over time. Chris24 02:25, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] March 2007

Hello all, and thank you for contributing to this school site. I'm part of the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Schools/Assessment team, and I'm reviewing this page, I'm currently giving it a grade of B in accordance with the official rating on the Wikipedia 1.0 Assessment Scale and an importance of High on this importance scale.

My reasoning is as follows: This article is extensive and very well cited. It has solid content and lots of information. It needs some cleaning up before it will be GA status. Adam McCormick 02:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] U of L officials

We here at the Communications and Marketing Department of the University of Louisville are doing our best to correct any errors that may be in this article. I am not the one in charge, but I will take all of your suggestions to my bosses and see what they have to say about extending the history and adding to student life. I welcome any other ideas you have and would be happy to pursue them further.


~~Annie, C&M Intern, UofL, 5/22/07

[edit] Campuses

If you are going to have boxes for what surrounds the Belknap Campus and the Health Science campus, would it not make sense to include a box of what surrounds the Shelby campus? Annie Catron 20:18, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it does. :) User:Angry Aspie has going around adding those boxes to articles, and it's probable he hasn't gotten around to that part of town yet. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 20:38, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Odd sentence

I think the following line should be removed or modified: "Since 2000, U of L is the only school to have won a BCS bowl game, appeared in the men's basketball Final Four and the college baseball World Series, and won a national championship in Track and Field." - This is a ridiculous statement. You can pick a random year and a list of arbitrary accomplishments for any school and make a sentence like this. Example: "Since 2000, Oregon State is the only school to have won a BCS bowl game, won 2 national titles in baseball on 3 CWS trips, and won their conference title in wrestling" - See what I did there? I just picked some random accomplishments that only we have done so that I can say OSU is the only school to have done so. The sentence wouldn't be nearly as bad if the "track and field" part was removed (since that isn't one of the big 3 sports) but it would still be an odd sentence that could be crafted to fit several other schools with some slight modifications. VegaDark (talk) 23:29, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree, so I modified it. Hope it works now. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 13:52, 2 September 2007 (UTC)