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[edit] Changed name of article to "University of Kentucky/Lexington-Fayette Urban County Government Arboretum" "University of Kentucky Arboretum"

I moved the article to this name because it is the name according to [1] and [2]. I also changed the name in articles that link here. --Robby 03:41, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I disagree with this move. While this may be the full and proper name of the arboretum, Wikipedia practice is to locate the article at the most commonly used name. Even the signs at the arboretum (pictured on the website at [3]) use an abbreviated name: University of Kentucky and Lexington-Fayette County Arboretum. I suggest that the article should be located at "Lexington Arboretum" or (preferably) "University of Kentucky Arboretum" with the full name acknowledged in the opening sentance. Cmadler 22:53, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I can see your point, but I'm not sure how we can determine the most commonly used name. I would say that most people in Lexington probably just call it "the arboretum". If we use Google searching for 1)"university of kentucky lexington fayette urban county government arboretum" or 2)"uk arboretum" or 3)"university of kentucky arboretum" or 4)"lexington arboretum", ironically, the number of matches for #1 roughly equals the total of #2, #3, & #4 combined. I don't know... I'm not saying for certain that this move is perfect. If we do go by the most commonly used name, what would it be? How would we determine it? --Robby 22:34, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

When I did a search on #1, I got 49 distinct results. On #2 I stopped when I passed 100 distinct results. #3 (fundamentally the same term as #2) also exceeded 100 distinct results. Perhaps more important than the numbers are the nature of the links. #2 & #3 seemed to come from local sites (Herald-Leader, Courier-Journal, Shakespeare in the Park, John's Running Shop, ACE Weekly, the Chevy Chaser, etc.). Many of the hits on #4 refer to it as the "UK Lexington Arboretum Park"; very few seem to refer to it specifically as the "Lexington Arboretum." My feeling is that the article should be at "University of Kentucky Arboretum" with redirects from "University of Kentucky/Lexington-Fayette Urban County Government Arboretum" and "Lexington Arboretum." Cmadler 17:17, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

I think I can live with that. I think it would be good to have the 'actual' name in the article somewhere... Perhaps we could have a section for alternate names. I just don't want to give the Arboretum fully to the University of Kentucky when it is a joint project of the school and the city. So, we could park the article at "University of Kentucky Arboretum" and clarify in the article the actual and alternate naming and at the same time have those 2 redirects. --Robby 00:51, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

It now resides at University of Kentucky Arboretum and redirects from University of Kentucky/Lexington-Fayette Urban County Government Arboretum and Lexington arboretum. I also made mention in the article of the names. See if you like what I've done. --Robby 18:33, 6 November 2005 (UTC)