Talk:University of Hong Kong
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[edit] The neutrality of the "criticism" section is disputed
- Wikipedia is NOT a soapbox, see: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not section 1.4 for further information.
- The recent editing of language regarding the english-decline issue by a certain user to "lessen the blow" also violates the neutral point of view policy on wikipedia (one can review the "history" of changes of the HKU article to find out what I am talking about). On the other hand, soapbox type of article invites this kind of violation on neutrality, such is the reason why one should consider to present recent issues regarding HKU NOT in this manner (that resembles a soapbox). It is wise to take note on how journalist writes objectively to raise attention towards an issue. It is possible to present all issues in the criticism setion without turning the section a "soapbox". Personally, I think these issues are interesting, but they should not be presented in the current form. Justicelilo 04:11, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion on the "criticism" section
Is it wise to place so much emphasis on this section, and is it wise at all to keep such a section? Wikipedia is not a forum for discussing "hot topic," wikipedia is supposed to provide objective information to other wiki users. Furthermore, other wiki-articles regarding universite don't have this kind of subjective section on their pages. Justicelilo 05:23, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
~Actually I enjoy that section as it appears to be one of the few places in HKU culture where "criticism" is brought into public view. I feel proud of my university when I read such reflections as it functions to allow us to wrestle with what our university is exactly.
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- Ya, I understand your point. My point is that you can do that by making a HKU criticism website somewhere out there on the Web and place your discussion there on that Web site, then link the discussion on the wikipedia page. It is weird to see a university wiki-article, which is supposed to be neutural, focusing so heavily on "controversial" matters. I am not questioning the motive behind it, as it maybe well-intented. Nor am I attempting to obstruct freedom of speech, I am just questioning its appropriateness. Justicelilo 03:28, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- I just moved this section up so people can discuss the matter. Also, I am noticing that there is an edit war happening on the "criticism" section. I believe that both sides should discuss the matter here, instead of engaging in an edit-war. Justicelilo 07:24, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Student Enrollment Number
The pamphlet titled, "Inauguration Ceremony for New Students 2005/September 2, 2005 Loke Yew Hall", states:
In 2004-5 academic year, the University had over 21,300 students (around 12,000 undergraduates and 9,300 postgraduates). Its student population included more than 2,500 non-local students.
Yet, in his introductory remarks (in the same ceremony), Dr. Albert Chau, Dean of Student Affairs, gave a student population number closer to the "14,000" offered here. Is the pamphlet information correct or in error and can this updated student enrollment be added to the page?
[edit] On Hazing
HKU hall education (at least some) has been over accentuate "hall contribution" as a requirement of admission. Exemplified by the re-admission form adopted by Starr Hall HKU, you have to list and quantify contribution to hall. It is so ridiculous that you are required to reveal "how many time have you been to interhall competitions". The intensified atmosphere on materialistic hall contribution has bred the hazing culture. Some wardens of the halls believes that admitting students who contribute most is an incentive for cultivating hall culture. The reason is that hall memberships are essential for some students having very remote residence or even no residence in HK, so acquiescence of hazing is simply needed under the accommodation pressure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sam Lo (talk • contribs) 22:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
While the hazing practice in the HKU residential hall may be "tame" (actually I'm not sure even about that) when compared to the standard practice of, say, American fraternities, in most Western countries freshmen had to ask before they would be hazed (say through pledging a frat), whereas at HKU everyone who lives in a dorm has to go through such process. So no I would not characterize the HKU practice as harmless fun when compared to their Western counterparts.
[edit] Hall education
I am told by some of my friends that academic staffs of the University are apointed to take up positions in each hall, it seems to me that the hall education in University of Hong Kong resembles some kind of collegiate atmosphere in the collegiate universities. Could someone add a word or two on that?
- Yes, they are appointed as so, but no hall has the right to enrol students and all 10 university faculties are independent from the hall system. I guess the HKU hall system should be different from the collegiate universities, say, Oxford.
Interviews for admission to the LKS Faculty of Medicine in September 2006 were apparently conducted in Cantonese where the applicant was able to speak it.
edited because: 1) Interviews for all subjects were in Cantonese 2) apparently is not appropriate, if anyone disagrees then put a "citation needed" instead 3) Changed where to if, because it sounds like "Cantonese is forbidden in certain places, so the interview had to be conducted where the applicant was able to speak it".
It is very doubtful, at least to me as a HKU student, that interviews are conducted in Cantonese. That has never been the case as far as I know. And that the lessons are conducted in Chinese is also doubtful, because the employment contract of the lecturers states that they have to use English as a medium of instruction, though sometimes, they may use a Chinese word to explain some difficult English words. (Of course, Chinese language courses are not conducted in English.)
[edit] ranking of HKU
- Please sign your comments with 4 tildas (4 of ~). I don't see what's wrong with mentioning the Times considering another ranking, the Jiaotong U one, is doing HKU's ranking a disservice. It is ridiculous and impractical to mention every single ranking for every university. The section as it stands now is satisfactory. Jsw663 10:49, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
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- "The Webometrics ranking of universities, however, is based entirely on the web-presence of the university (a computerised assessment of the size and sophistication of the website). As such it is unlikely to accurately reflect the academic performance directly, but will reflect the internet based activities of the universities."
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This is also not the entire truth, according the website of webometrics: "If the web performance of an institution is below the expected position according to their academic excellence, university authorities should reconsider their web policy, promoting substantial increases in the volume and quality of their electronic publications."
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- Rankings are often bloody bias and inaccurate. It gives the (often ignorant) general public false interpretation of a good/bad university. Universities placed lower down the ranks are perceived to be bad, is nonsense. It depends on the catagories which they are ranked on. Not, for example how many volumes of books they have etc.
- Every university have their own strengths. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out on most rankings, Harvard is always/mostly placed 1st; not because it is BEST school in all subjects but the amount of endowment it has for research and funding good profs. Rankings are mostly used for people to feel good about themselves. The best asset of a university is its' students not rankings.
[edit] There should not be "The" in the title
The title should be "University of Hong Kong", not "The University of Hong Kong". See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (definite and indefinite articles at beginning of name) --Neo-Jay 20:36, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- It is called THE university of HK according to their very own website.
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- Please read Wikipedia:Naming conventions (definite and indefinite articles at beginning of name): "The definite article should not be used for universities, even if the official name of the university uses the definite article... " --Neo-Jay 05:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The neutrality of the "present" section is disputed
- I now official raise the discussion of the method in which the ranking is presented on HKU page. While it is legitmate to put one school's ranking on wiki, it is inordinary to compare with the other schools. Representatives from the other schools are caught in a troubling position due to the current presntation on ranking. On one hand, information about their schools are used to support a statement, but the other schools are not given a chance to respond, since it appears unappropriate and dubious to do so; this is a violation of wiki policy on neutral point of view, 2.4 fairness of tone, and 2.6, let the facts speak for themselves. The correct form of the statement without being non-neutral should be:
- "According to the Times Higher Education Supplement 2006 World University Rankings, HKU was ranked 33rd in the world and 3rd among universities in the Greater China."
- If comparison is made, then it should try to be fair and neutral by providing information in a full and frank manner, however, that would defeat the purpose of a wikipedia page, since it will go into needless details regarding the issue, and it might make this section into a soapbox. It is pointless to respond to the statement by writing, "while HKU has higher overall ranking on one particular university poll, a number of its programs are ranked behind their respective counterparts in the other universities." However, it is the only way to remain neutral on a media. In general, one should note that it is important to stay on topic and only provide information regarding the object/subject that is being written, and refrain from provding details that are not directly representing the object/subject being written. This is a safe rule of thumb. For example, ranking data of another school is not directly representing HKU, and should not have a place on the HKU wiki-page.
- Further information regarding wikipedia's neutrality policies please see: Wikipedia:Neutral point of view . Justicelilo 04:02, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Some More Rankings
International Comparisons The World's Top 200 Universities
The World's Top 200 Universities
1 1 Harvard US 100 100 100 96 93 91 100
2= 2 University of Cambridge UK 100 100 99 83 98 91 97.6
2= 3 University of Oxford UK 100 100 100 82 97 96 97.6
2= 4= Yale University US 100 98 100 91 84 75 97.6
5 9 Imperial College London UK 99 99 100 81 98 100 97.5
6 10 Princeton University US 100 94 95 97 83 75 97.2
7= 7 California Institute of Technology US 100 55 100 100 100 91 96.5
7= 11 University of Chicago US 100 97 100 86 71 90 96.5
9 25 University College London UK 96 97 100 82 91 98 95.3
10 4= Massachusetts Institute of Technology US 100 99 85 98 34 94 94.6
11 12 Columbia University US 100 96 94 91 35 89 94.5
12 21 McGill University Canada 100 97 99 72 73 96 93.9
13 13 Duke University US 98 97 100 92 16 74 93.4
14 26 University of Pennsylvania US 97 96 88 92 83 65 93.3
15 23 Johns Hopkins University US 99 77 98 96 35 69 92.9
16 16 Australian National University Australia 100 91 100 66 68 91 91.6
17 19= University of Tokyo Japan 100 92 96 88 25 44 91.1
18 33= University of Hong Kong Hong Kong 95 90 85 79 100 89 90.7
19 6 Stanford University US 100 99 66 100 25 94 90.6
20= 35= Carnegie Mellon University US 96 94 76 87 67 96 90.0
20= 15 Cornell University US 100 98 74 93 36 69 90.0
22 8 University of California, Berkeley US 100 98 59 92 73 88 89.7
23 33= University of Edinburgh UK 96 98 82 76 71 80 88.8
24 46= King’s College London UK 90 95 91 70 93 84 88.2
25 29= Kyoto University Japan 99 89 83 90 29 24 87.2
26 18 Ecole Normale Supérieure, Paris France 91 60 83 98 61 81 87.1
27 22 University of Melbourne Australia 100 99 64 70 64 95 85.9
28 37 Ecole Polytechnique France 76 94 100 78 70 94 85.1
29 42 Northwestern University US 88 97 77 91 35 68 85.0
30 40 University of Manchester UK 88 99 77 70 84 85 84.7
31 35= University of Sydney Austraila 99 95 51 71 100 95 84.6
32 54= Brown University US 90 77 74 89 75 58 84.5
33= 50= University of British Columbia Canada 100 91 70 74 35 63 84.3
33= 45 University of Queensland Austraila 95 94 70 68 79 76 84.3
33= 19= National University of Singapore Singapore 100 93 34 84 100 100 84.3
36 14 Peking University China 100 98 98 53 32 26 84.2
37 64= University of Bristol UK 81 98 85 77 88 72 84.1
38= 50= Chinese University of Hong Kong Hong Kong 83 79 80 80 100 85 83.8
38= 29= University of Michigan US 99 96 53 89 41 52 83.8
40 28 Tsinghua University China 95 92 100 59 20 36 83.3
41 31 University of California, Los Angeles US 100 92 56 91 20 36 82.8
42 24 ETH Zurich Switzerland 92 75 61 74 100 92 82.5
43 38 Monash University Australia 98 97 53 57 99 99 82.1
44 41 University of New South Wales Australia 97 98 39 76 89 91 81.8
45 27 University of Toronto Canada 100 96 21 93 86 50 80.6
46 =70 Osaka University Japan 83 75 86 91 17 29 80.0
47 66 Boston University US 91 89 49 88 29 88 79.7
48 69 University of Amsterdam Netherlands 84 81 81 70 76 32 78.6
49 43 New York University US 95 93 48 77 29 49 77.8
50 46= University of Auckland New Zealand 95 83 38 61 100 99 77.5
51= 63 Seoul National University South Korea 92 54 80 79 16 24 77.1
51= 32 University of Texas at Austin US 95 94 22 92 66 47 77.1
53= 58= Hong Kong University of Science & Technology Hong Kong 84 82 28 92 100 96 76.9
53= 78 Trinity College Dublin Ireland 80 92 70 58 99 77 76.9
55= 84 University of Washington US 84 50 73 92 44 33 76.7
55= 79= University of Wisconsin-Madison US 94 81 31 95 50 44 76.7
57 73 University of Warwick UK 80 98 62 58 89 96 76.4
58 44 University of California, San Diego US 98 39 51 95 23 30 76.3
59 17 London School of Economics UK 89 100 65 29 100 100 75.7
60 58= Heidelberg University Germany 84 63 61 78 42 87 75.5
61 96 Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Belgium 88 83 39 84 51 55 75.0
62 105= University of Adelaide Australia 75 86 66 65 77 96 74.7
63 86 Delft University of Technology Netherlands 75 80 66 72 83 67 74.4
64 111= University of Western Australia Australia 72 88 56 78 96 78 74.3
65= 90= University of Birmingham UK 71 93 62 75 84 70 74.1
65= 98 Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München Germany 80 60 70 72 58 71 74.1
67 82= Technische Universität München Germany 68 71 88 69 59 83 73.9
68 102= University of Sheffield UK 69 96 71 69 81 67 73.7
69 61= Nanyang Technological University Singapore 81 82 37 72 100 99 73.6
70 85 University of Nottingham UK 69 98 64 65 84 88 73.2
71= 61= Dartmouth College US 60 89 91 83 26 53 73.0
71= 111= Uppsala University Sweden 85 34 81 72 51 26 73.0
73 77 University of Illinois US 94 64 29 86 34 51 72.6
74= 56 Emory University US 61 75 99 85 13 39 72.4
74= 124= University of York UK 62 91 77 69 76 83 72.4
76 109= University of St Andrews UK 57 95 78 69 91 99 72.3
77= 88 University of Pittsburgh US 62 45 94 85 78 38 72.2
77= 127 Purdue University US 87 79 24 82 76 64 72.2
79 111= University of Maryland US 71 62 71 85 48 45 72.1
80= 121 University of Leeds UK 74 97 56 69 76 59 72.0
80= 141= University of Southampton UK 60 90 71 76 88 74 72.0
82 53 Vanderbilt University US 55 81 99 87 28 41 71.9
83 81 University of Glasgow UK 71 84 71 75 42 54 71.8
84 90= Leiden University Netherlands 81 63 35 93 78 40 71.7
85= 60 Case Western Reserve University US 59 50 99 85 18 80 71.6
85= 116= Fudan University China 87 96 45 68 31 31 71.6
85= 87 University of Vienna Austria 86 80 12 90 63 89 71.6
88 176 Queen's University Canada 74 88 49 79 87 34 71.2
89 95 Utrecht University Netherlands 80 55 65 80 38 24 70.9
90= 99= Pennsylvania State University US 84 82 63 64 18 24 70.5
90= 118 Tokyo Institute of Technology Japan 67 86 59 91 34 42 70.5
92 102= Rice University US 65 45 80 88 39 58 70.3
93= 54= University of Copenhagen Denmark 82 55 51 70 66 62 70.1
93= 181= University of Montreal Canada 88 50 31 80 89 41 70.1
95 48= University of Rochester US 58 38 100 84 24 63 69.3
96 170= University of California, Davis US 83 34 60 82 31 26 69.1
97= 133= University of Alberta Canada 88 30 23 87 88 62 68.8
97= 145 Georgia Institute of Technology US 79 77 25 93 18 74 68.8
99 141= Cardiff University UK 62 84 70 65 72 75 68.6
100 116= University of Helsinki Finland 79 45 28 93 56 78 68.2
101 139 University of Liverpool UK 55 85 70 76 83 64 68.1
102= 102= Georgetown University US 57 94 69 80 28 73 68.0
102= 108 National Taiwan University Taiwan 86 68 39 79 18 24 68.0
102= 168= Tohoku University Japan 53 59 96 84 40 32 68.0
105 39 University of Geneva Switzerland 62 54 39 91 100 100 67.2
106 122 Lund University Sweden 76 41 43 81 77 52 66.9
107 211= University of Colorado US 60 15 100 85 33 31 66.8
108 155 McMaster University Canada 84 49 31 89 28 37 66.6
109 132 Durham University UK 59 98 49 74 92 61 66.5
110 130= University of Virginia US 63 94 52 86 22 36 66.4
111 172= Maastricht University Netherlands 43 72 80 81 68 99 66.2
112= 128= Nagoya University Japan 53 74 83 85 25 30 66.1
112= 204= University of Waterloo Canada 82 82 17 75 63 49 66.1
114= 126 University of Aarhus Denmark 65 19 89 69 59 37 65.6
114= 75 University of Basel Switzerland 52 20 99 67 89 81 65.6
114= 79= University of Otago New Zealand 69 61 39 66 100 92 65.6
117= 141= University of California, Santa Barbara US 88 31 25 89 43 21 65.5
117= 64= Ecole Polytechnique Fédérale De Lausanne Switzerland 58 58 97 29 100 100 65.5
119 101 University of Southern California US 62 77 52 80 25 78 65.4
120 219= Ohio State University US 69 77 39 79 67 38 65.3
121 105= University of Sussex UK 58 51 58 77 90 83 65.2
122 150= Texas A&M University US 76 75 27 81 41 39 64.9
123 76 Université Catholique de Louvain Belgium 78 60 28 73 50 74 64.8
124 141= University of Ghent Belgium 63 29 88 69 47 30 64.5
125 180 Nanjing University China 74 72 45 69 59 14 64.4
126= 105= Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin Germany 71 38 71 57 44 68 64.3
126= 215= University of Western Ontario Canada 68 90 30 80 72 30 64.3
128 119 Hebrew University of Jerusalem Israel 86 20 18 91 83 14 64.0
129 133= Newcastle University UK 45 87 74 67 80 80 63.9
130= 194 Technical University of Denmark Denmark 47 23 86 84 91 59 63.8
130= 67 Eindhoven University of Technology Netherlands 48 48 99 69 60 48 63.8
132= 198= Korea Advanced Institute of Science & Technol South Korea 65 27 64 85 53 28 63.7
132= 93= Université Pierre et Marie Curie, Paris VI France 60 5 90 73 20 92 63.7
134 224= University of Arizona US 69 57 37 88 28 45 63.1
135 226= University of Florida US 62 41 77 74 27 32 63.0
136 128= Kyushu University Japan 50 68 80 82 17 31 62.8
137= 195 University of Aberdeen UK 45 64 78 67 91 73 62.7
137= 232= Indiana University Bloomington US 67 79 28 85 45 37 62.7
139 282= Simon Fraser University Canada 72 72 22 67 97 62 62.6
140= 198= University of California, Irvine US 79 30 38 82 27 30 62.5
140= 109= University of Zurich Switzerland 71 32 13 95 99 58 62.5
142= 187= University of Minnesota US 76 43 28 89 26 35 62.3
142= 170= Universität Tübingen Germany 60 52 46 79 76 65 62.3
144 219= Universität Freiburg Germany 57 23 93 61 24 76 62.2
145 153 University of Bath UK 46 96 49 71 91 91 62.0
146 149 Freie Universität Berlin Germany 79 16 31 70 70 81 61.9
147 228= University of Lancaster UK 49 80 65 57 88 81 61.7
148 97 Wageningen University Netherlands 39 28 88 87 46 97 61.5
149= 154 City University of Hong Kong Hong Kong 62 51 37 76 100 51 61.2
149= 99= Queen Mary, University of London UK 55 65 81 30 94 92 61.2
151= 133= Hokkaido University Japan 49 69 76 82 19 21 61.1
151= 123 University of North Carolina US 72 86 28 74 22 20 61.1
151= 147= Tel Aviv University Israel 81 36 26 89 13 13 61.1
154 165= Université Libre de Bruxelles Belgium 56 52 57 69 43 96 61.0
155= 165= University of Science and Technology of China China 75 77 28 76 16 11 60.9
155= 152 University of Notre Dame US 56 88 43 81 25 50 60.9
157 72 Ecole Normale Supérieure de Lyon France 42 45 100 67 41 58 60.8
158 140 Cranfield University UK 31 74 100 57 74 100 60.7
159= 163 Michigan State University US 63 71 33 76 65 45 60.6
159= 130= Tufts University US 42 78 61 90 46 44 60.6
161= 120 Keio University Japan 52 88 91 45 25 16 59.9
161= 48= Washington University in St Louis US 72 62 100 1 27 48 59.9
163= 92 Erasmus University Rotterdam Netherlands 51 97 28 88 64 45 59.7
163= 179 Shanghai Jiao Tong University China 72 92 38 55 35 11 59.7
165 201= Universität Stuttgart Germany 47 81 71 50 52 90 59.4
166= 266= University of Calgary Canada 67 61 28 81 24 37 58.9
166= 138 Vienna University of Technology Austria 53 44 68 52 75 88 58.9
168= 156= Universität Göttingen Germany 66 - 73 59 41 54 58.8
168= 82= Macquarie University Australia 61 89 23 52 85 99 58.8
170 291 Helsinki University of Technology Finland 52 17 94 57 56 44 58.7
171= 238 University of Dundee UK 44 51 65 71 84 66 58.3
171= 222= Universität Karlsruhe Germany 45 60 73 59 56 85 58.3
173= 207= University of Bologna Italy 78 66 24 62 21 26 58.2
173= 232= University of Groningen Netherlands 48 51 69 74 62 29 58.2
175= 124= University of Massachusetts, Amherst US 62 45 34 90 24 31 57.9
175= 284= University of São Paulo Brazil 65 59 51 63 24 14 57.9
177= 448= University of Campinas Brazil 52 30 78 73 43 16 57.8
177= 219= University College Dublin Ireland 56 85 29 63 89 58 57.8
177= 215= Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey US 72 33 30 73 60 24 57.8
180= 190= University of Reading UK 45 67 52 69 78 78 57.7
180= 158= Waseda University Japan 68 92 64 25 26 23 57.7
182 172= Rheinisch-Westfälische Technische Hochschule Aachen Germany 40 80 80 48 53 81 57.5
183 197 Università Degli Studi Di Roma, La Sapienza Italy 79 63 11 71 15 21 57.3
184 161= Université Louis Pasteur, Strasbourg I France 58 64 19 82 45 77 57.1
185= 239= University of Leicester UK 37 60 60 76 77 86 57.0
185= 115 University of Twente Netherlands 46 42 61 76 75 51 57.0
187 252= University of Antwerp Belgium 41 7 99 67 57 59 56.9
188= 333= University of Canterbury New Zealand 62 77 30 55 55 66 56.6
188= 177 University of Oslo Norway 61 25 54 62 51 55 56.6
190 258= University of Surrey UK 33 79 61 64 95 92 56.4
191 255= Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute US 44 44 44 90 70 58 56.2
192= 172= KTH, Royal Institute of Technology Sweden 49 17 51 70 90 99 56.1
192= 74 Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México Mexico 74 78 64 13 28 13 56.1
194 190= University of Barcelona Spain 69 46 22 78 17 36 55.9
195= 137 Radboud Universiteit Nijmegen Netherlands 40 19 82 75 83 31 55.8
195= 192= Queensland University of Technology Australia 66 87 28 39 64 63 55.8
197= 147= Chalmers University of Technology Sweden 51 23 42 83 74 59 55.5
197= 181= Kobe University Japan 51 67 60 65 22 27 55.5
199 196 University of Wollongong Australia 45 89 31 58 99 99 55.3
200= 257 University of Cape Town South Africa 54 69 28 68 27 91 54.8
200= 146 Rmit University Australia 63 88 22 32 74 99 54.8
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[edit] additional references or sources for verification
How do I improve upon making more additional references or sources to verify for the Study Abroad Section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xcinja (talk • contribs) 06:41, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
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- Well, first of all, the list of universities Hong Kong U has SA affiliations with should not be listed in its entirety. (A simple sentence stating that "HKU is affiliated with "X" # of universities spanning eighteen countries" should suffice.) You basically need to find articles (satisfying WP:RS) on the subject and support claims you've added into the article. If you want to review other university articles that have been rated "FA" or "GA" (Featured/Good Article), you may see the list of articles here: Category: FA-Class Universities articles, Category: GA-Class Universities articles. Modeling HKU's article after a FA/GA class article would vastly improve its current rating. Also review WP:UNI#Structure. - Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ contribs 11:40, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
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- Well I found it directly from the site connected to HKU but not in an article, all of the information I've found is basically from the site directly so I'm sure that the facts I've found are correct and is the article really too long? because I put a lot of work into formating the Universities and I would've linked them to the site directly but the site is powered by javascript so it's the same exact site and wouldn't work so well being directly linked, si there anything else I should change or fix? and is there any solutions I could use to fix the problems I've created? ThanksXcinja (talk) 01:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, it is too long. I mean it. When this tiny section (in terms of context) outstretches the actual content of the article, it's too long. I'll send a copy of what you have right now so you don't lose the work, but that list is coming off of the article now. - Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ contribs 06:19, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
anything else i should change? btw the putting on the signature was for my project which i haven't presented yet. I was told to sign there. sorryy. thanks for the help in editing. Xcinja (talk) 18:10, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] the negative criticism section
Must have references. Reinsert those parts of it for which there are good published 3rd party sources.DGG (talk) 03:50, 16 April 2008 (UTC)