Talk:University Students' Cooperative Association
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[edit] the Afro house section
Can someone who knows a little more about the demographic make-up of the house edit this section for neutrality? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.204.83 (talk) 04:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Renaming the page
Does anyone know how to rename a page? Now the the University Students Cooperative Association page is dead, I'd love to take that name and get rid of that annoying hyphen. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rocknjosie (talk • contribs) 2005-09-06 07:35 (UTC)
- I have renamed it. Mike Dillon 19:10, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] rename lothlorien hall
I have been working on the Madison Community Cooperative wiki page, and I want to try to organize the lothlorien and lothlorien (cooperative) part of wikipedia. currently, it's a mess of redirects and incorrect/weird names. I was thinking along the lines of renaming lothlorien hall to Lothlorien Cooperative, Berkeley, or whatever makes the most sense to elves there. this would make a better naming standard and would allow for other lothlorien cooperatives to be listed, for example Lothlorien Cooperative, Madison, and texas.
Alexhuntrods 11:54, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Neutrality of Article
I feel that this article is biased because it fails to mention any criticisms of the co-op system. In particular, I'd like to see mention of the lawsuits against the USCA and the recent drug related death. --69.232.217.21 02:39, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge House info?
Two of the individual house articles have been deleted from Wikipedia, another has failed an AfD but not yet been deleted, and many others don't really meet Wikipedia requirements to be kept, and would probably be deleted if proposed at Articles for Deletion. I propose to incorporate the (encyclopedic content from the) individual house articles as sections in this article, and delete all the house articles other than those for Barrington Hall and Cloyne Court Hotel. I've prepared a revised USCA article with the proposed change at User:Argyriou/University Students' Cooperative Association. Comments? Αργυριου (talk) 19:36, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
The problem with this proposal is that it would make this page too long. While I agree that individually the houses themselves may not be notable, it is a better way to organize the information about the USCA, which is notable. This is a case of applying a policy literally without thinking about the consequences of what you're doing. I would suggest restoring the deleted pages. MarcusGraly 17:54, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I recreated the two deleted articles. MarcusGraly 18:36, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- Marcus - the draft article with all the houses incorporated is 33kB long, which is not really too long. You didn't need to undelete the Sherman Hall and Lothlorien articles; I've already incorporated the text from them into the draft. Αργυριου (talk) 18:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Okay, thanks.18.51.2.136 15:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Um, i see i'm a bit late as you've already merged everything, but i'd still like to dissent. First, a logistic problem: i see that you are leaving Cloyne's page separate and mirroring it here. I'm not sure how you plan to keep the two pages synced, and i suspect it will be impossible. I think a better solution would be to create a short, superficial snippet below the link to the Main Article. Second, a necessity problem: i don't understand why some of the merged pages needed to be merged at all. I understand that some small houses were AfD'd, but several of the merged pages clearly had enough content to merit their own separate entry. Third, a selection problem: i see the only active house you chose to not merge is Cloyne. While their house history is more ... er, colorful than most other houses, there is no real difference in the quantity of historical content between Cloyne and, say, Kingman or Davis. The only distinction is that the Cloyne page now has an "Incidents" section, which hardly qualifies as encyclopedic information as much as sensationalistic news. Being the (previously unnotified) primary author of the CZ entry, i've reverted the Casa Zimbabwe page and added a Main Article link on the USCA page accordingly. Wjmallard 04:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- I posted a merge notice on all the affected articles about a week ago; that should have been enough notice. Per your suggestion, I've trimmed way back the Cloyne section in this article. I believe that Cloyne is significantly more notable than other USCA houses because of its size (largest other than Barrington) and its architectural history. Actually, based on history, Euclid is probably the second or third most notable building in the USCA. Even if Davis or Kingman (or Lothlorien) are notable because of their history, CZ isn't really. Αργυριου (talk) 22:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merged!
It's done. I've left Cloyne Court Hotel and Barrington Hall standing, but all the other house articles (and many redirects to them) have been made into redirects to this article. This article requires some cleanup. I've taken the unusual step of having references in each section, because the references really are just for the section, and merging them into one section at the bottom would be messy. Αργυριου (talk) 19:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Stebbins lizard mascot
This appears to be a new thing; I lived there for 3 years from 98-01 and never heard of such a prior tradition or mascot, thus I question whether it deserves mention. The fact that Kidd is right behind Stebbins and can be accessed via the backyard or its murals (don't know who the artist is that they're an homage to) seem to be more worthy mentions. BrokenSphereMsg me 01:51, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Key sections missing
There's no mention of the workshifts, point system, or how each house governs itself (managers, meetings), all integral to how the co-ops operate, serious deficiencies at this point. BrokenSphereMsg me 22:16, 8 December 2007 (UTC)