Talk:Universal Sufism
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CONTEST DELETION
I contest the deletion of this article because the Ten Thoughts in the Creedal Statement are religious statements. Saying that they are copywritten is like saying the ten commandments are also. Universal Sufism is a religion and its creedal statement is open for all to write.
Djalo 18:05, 8 June 2007 (UK)
Most of this material was copy-pasted from the article on Hazrat Inayat Khan. I copy-edited some of it, but it could use some work from someone knowledgable.
- okay. also some of descendants are deceased and dates need to go in. Shazzamm 15:55, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Quote from magazine
Related to 1917 article of the magazine "Rays from the Rose Cross": the author does not refer to a specific Sufi organization like "Universal Sufism", but refers to the universality of Sufism while unifying spiritual esoteric teachings which go beyond the separative human dogmas of religions: the esoteric teachings come and go directly to the Spiritual source and so, in this sense, they are universal.
However, the author has always expressed through his writings that these esoteric teachings and related religions are given, respectively, to the appropriate prepared individuals along "Rays" and to general people, as collectivity, along human races (and also through epochs, from East to West, the Sun's path). They should not work to convert other zones of the world, since, that according to the author of the article, they all have to give place - through a natural evolutive process - in a not far future (as man evolve) to one world Religion and related more advanced esoteric teachings to a more developed human intellect (which includes a fusion of both...): Esoteric Christianity, development of the known exoteric, external, popular form of Christianity (as man, in individual and collective forms, has also developed his mind since then) brought by the high Spiritual Being Christ, with the mission to unify and replace all the earlier religions (based upon races/world zones).
So, given the aims of the movement or organization "Universal Sufism" to spread to the world, the author article does not talk about this, neither supports it. So, this section should again be reverted to the Sufism main article (as it is a major western - esoteric related to Christianity - reference toward Sufism, which is esoteric related to Mahometism). Thank you.
[edit] UUA link
I took out the link to the Unitarian Universalist Association, despite being a UU; I also made Universalist small U. There is no real historic or organic connection between Universal Sufism and Universalism of the North American sort (there may be one of sympathy, though, but that's perhaps at best after the fact). Blondlieut 03:58, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Grammar, spelling, and tone
Blondlieut, it might be prudent to make reference to the similarity between Sufi and UU beliefs in the article, but I think you're right to remove the link.
I'd like to make a request to whomever tried to edit this page along with me on 26 December 2006; I was trying to correct your edits sometimes not because I didn't love your wrtiing, which was amazing, but because I thought the tone was too conversational (an encyclopedia can't really do that) and I saw some areas with bad grammar and spelling mistakes. I tried to improve the grammar and syntax. I don't want there to be edit conflicts, and I don't want to annoy or disrespect anyone, especially not a fellow Sufi. So if you have questions or concerns, could you please contact me? --The Human Trumpet Solo, 09:39 AM, December 27, 2006
Djalo24, hey I am grateful for your contributions and grammar/spelling corrections. Are you a Universal Sufi, and where do you live? We should chat on msn or aol, mine are hsnbsh@hotmail.com or Djalo24. --Djalo24, 19:49, December 27, 2006
[edit] Speedy deletion
While the article needs sourcing I do not see major copyvio problems, with the exception of one small section, which is very short and with simple sourcing can be taken care of. DoomsDay349 17:08, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
