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Contents 1 Birth 2 Family info 3 Hitler's Lover? 4 In the Times 5 Psychological profile

[edit] Birth

" She was born in the town of Swastika, Ontario. " -- older versions say Swastika, Alaska. Do either of these places exist? -- Tarquin

Yes. Swastika, Ontario still exists. THE SISTERS: THE SAGA OF THE MITFORD FAMILY p. 33, says Unity Mitford's was conceived in Swastika, Ontario, and born in London, England. -- Someone else 00:07 Apr 13, 2003 (UTC)

See Swastika, Ontario

According to the DNB, she was born on 8 August 1914 at 49 Victoria Road, Kensington, London, and again according to the DNB she died on 28 May 1948, at the West Highland Cottage Hospital, Oban. This should clarify someone asking for a citation of her age when she died. There is no mention of the story about where she was conceived, it sounds like an urban legend. --jmb 19:20, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Some person better acquainted with Wikipedias citation apparatus than I is invited to help to format my contribution (Streicher and source) adequately. Even the translation of Unity's letter in Der Stürmer as I am not a native speaker of English. Historicians tell us she was "naive". There is much more material about her if needed: She met with Hitler 140 times (according to her diary), got a car and flag from him for propanganda travels within Germany, a special Nazi party badge with Hitler's signature etc. Thank you. --charlandes 11:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Family info

The family info - siblings, etc - should not be duplicated here. I suggest a link to the Mitford family instead. LarRan 16:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hitler's Lover?

Do we think perhaps something should be added about the suggestion that she was Hitler's lover and possibly fathered a child by him as currently being reported in British newspapers? Not the firmest source in the world, but i think its certainly relevant? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.57.241.67 (talk) 01:06, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In the Times

In the Times today. Gwen Gale (talk) 06:26, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Rather thin Channel 4 program on 20 December. I've added some comment. Either you believe a lady who heard it second-hand, or a direct witness plus Mitford's sister. It seems unlikely to me but who knows.Nebelfluss (talk) 12:10, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Psychological profile

I've removed a paragraph from the "Birth" section that lacks citations and employs an unencyclopædic style. I'm pasting it here in case anyone wants to give it a complete overhaul and look into reincorporating it: some well-cited coverage of this theme might add to the article, but the text as it stands is speculative and unverified.

"Unity in her youth clearly found it hard to stand out among her eccentric family and siblings. One of Unity's sisters Jessica, claimed she was a communist supporter. The two shared a room and it is suggested that Unity initially became attracted to Fascism as a way of stating her individuality. Unity's other sister Diana as mentioned, married Mosley who had just formed the first British Fascist group. Unity's choice to go and meet Hitler is seen as another attempt to 'out do' her fellow siblings.^{[citation needed]} It becomes very clear that like many other Facists and Nazi supporters, Unity was following the regime and ideology to overcome the personal inadequacies of others.^{[citation needed]} Unity's love for Hitler was one of a hero-worshiping type and people familiar with the couple, doubted any sexual relationship at all.^{[citation needed]}"

Gonzonoir (talk) 12:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)