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[edit] RFID

Maybe we could mention something about the RFID urban legend that surrounds this new bill?

Dario 19:11, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] George Washington $20 bill

Various Internet sites talk about a really old $20 bill with George Washington. When was it printed?? I believe it was out of the history range on this page by at least a decade. User 66.32.64.190


[edit] From 'needs attention' (fixed AFAIC)

Finally it has been done. Can anyone do a similar thing to the other bill articles?? The portraits were mostly the same, with 3 exceptions, the $10, the $20, and the $1000, which had the same portraits, only in a different order, the $10 had Andrew Jackson, the $20 had Grover Cleveland, and the $1000 had Alexander Hamilton, All other bills from $5 to $10,000 had the same portraits. But how about the designs on the back?? They must ALL be something totally different. Remember the Internet site to use as a refrence tool. What does AFAIC stand for?? 66.32.247.11 14:24, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] 20 dollar bill and WTC

Is this the same bill that shows the WTC when folded. If so the info can be added in the article. Jay 10:16, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

copied from Misinformation and rumors about the September 11, 2001 attacks

Hidden Images on the $20 Bill

Within a few months of the attacks, it was discovered that one could generate an image of the attack by taking a new-style $20 bill and folding it in the following manner:

  • With the picture of the White House facing you, fold the bill in half lengthwise by folding the top down to the back. Now just the bottom of the White House should be visible.
  • Fold the ends down (toward the front) so that the top forms a point and the two ends are even at the bottom.

When the bill is turned so that the point is at the bottom, an image of what looks like the smoking World Trade Center is visible. Flip the bill over, and an image of what looks like the smoking Pentagon is also visible. In reality, the "images" are portions of the picture of the White House, with the image of the smoke coming from the trees beside it. It startled many to see that such an amazing coincidence could come from a few simple folds, with a bill that was issued several years before the attacks took place. The folding process will not produce the images on an old-style $20 bill, but it will work with the new "colorful" type of twenty that contains the same picture of the White House.

New! On series 1995 $20, one can see smoking World Trade Centers. This one shows smoke at top but with both fully there still standing. This must be after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. But fold the other way and get nothing.


[edit] Page move??

How come Canadian twenty dollar bill was moved to a hypenated form but this article was not?? Georgia guy 01:56, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Standard formatting, to match with Canadian five-dollar bill and Canadian ten-dollar bill. Radagast 17:11, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)

New! On series 1995 $20, one can see smoking World Trade Centers. This one shows smoke at top but with both fully there still standing. This must be after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. But fold the other way and get nothing.

[edit] Andrew Jackson

I am 1/8th Cherokee, certainly not alot by quantum, but enough to know about the Trail of tears from the family stories that were told to me by my father, grandmother, and great-grandmother. Sure, I'll pick up a $20.00 bill if I should find one laying on the ground, but, if given a $20 bill (US) as change or in a bank withdrawl I will certainly request for other denominations instead(ex. 2 10's - or ask outright for no $20's). I do strongly respect the office of President and I do realise that President Jackson did satisfy the national debt (the only President to have ever accomplished this) and that he had other great accomplishments that fortified our great nation (BTW, Cherokee people are generally very loyal and proud US Americans- I myself am a US ARMY combat veteran) but what he did to my ancestors (and fairly recent at that in family memory) is not unforgivable but is certainly unforgetable; therefore, I would prefer to see President Jackson's image removed from the US $20 bill and replaced by another great American President as there certainly are several that would be equal if not better candidates for the honor (personally, I think it would be cool if the image on the bills would change every five years or so- it would be good for counterfeit deterance, a good history lesson for the general public, an honor for the Presidents, and interesting overall- I mean really- other than the $1 and $5 dollar bill a surprising amount of people aren't be able to accurately name the President and the corresponding bill and identify the bill by the denomination amount number found in the corners- maybe I'll forward that idea to the US Treasury). As I said, President Jackson may be forgiven, but his deed to our people is not forgotten. And, as I understand, not accepting US $20 bills is common among Cherokee, Chactaw, and other Native American people and their decendants, so, this fact should be included in this article as it is directly relevent to the circulation of the bill (and circulation is a pretty important aspect of currency).


Has anyone (Native Americans, for instance) complained about Jackson being featured on the bill? He's awfully controversial to be one of the handful of people commemorated on money. Brutannica 00:58, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

It's been a year and I still wonder about this. I just learned about how he destabilized the currency, too. Why is he on the bill? Brutannica 08:10, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Is this relevant to the entry on the $20 bill. Talk of Andrew Jackson's presidency belongs on his entry, not on the $20 bill entry. Idle speculation on Jackson's conduct is not appropriate for this page. References to the trail of tears should be removed. Florfina 16:17 20 November 2006 (EST)

I think it is worthwhile to discuss it here, since I do not see addressed in this article at all why Jackson was picked. Was it a compromise with the South or something like that? He doesn't seem to have much to do with the treasury, and his legacy as a president is debatable. So why him? What was the decision making process? This might inform people's decisions about whether they want to keep him on it. Moment in time 16:58, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, then I'll point out that the articles for the $1, $2, $5, $10, $50, and $100 bills don't discuss the reasons those bills feature Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Hamilton, Grant, and Franklin. The legacy of any of those persons is "debatable". Washington, Jefferson, and Grant owned slaves. Grant's administration was infamous for corruption among its members. Etc., etc. I'm sure you can find someone to condemn every person currently featured on United States currency.
My point is that we shouldn't add our criticisms of things to Wikipedia, or introduce our own discussion of "whether we should keep Jackson on the $20 bill". Wikipedia is a compendium of existing knowledge, not a blog or discussion board.
If you can find some research explaining why in particular Jackson was chosen for the $20, go ahead and add it. But let's not add our own criticisms. — Mateo SA (talk | contribs) 17:39, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks so much for explain what Wikipedia is (no discussion can be truly complete without this "trump card") I was never arguing for a debate on Jackson, I just agreed with the other poster that this article doesn't explain why Jackson was chosen, which is solid historical fact. Look at an article on the US flag -- I bet it explains why colors and symbols were chosen. Moment in time 20:14, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Your comment said "I think it is worthwhile to discuss it here" [my emphasis]. I assumed "it" referred to the topic of the post above yours: Jackson's conduct. As I said above, I think it is perfectly appropriate to explain why Jackson was chosen for the twenty. — Mateo SA (talk | contribs) 21:00, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Reading my post over, I realized it sounds a bit snarky. Moment in time, I apologize for my tone in my original post; I shouldn't have talked down to you. I was partly responding to an edit on Jan 14, in which an anon added back a statement that the choice of Jackson was "controversial". I think I lumped you in with that.

I didn't think that addition about Jackson being controversial was legitimate: for a controversy to be notable, it should be the subject of more than just a few web pages. I also have a problem with the implication that Jackson is so inadequate that only the article on the twenty, and not the articles on the other denominations, should have a special section discussing why this bill uses this particular person. — Mateo SA (talk | contribs) 22:14, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I agree, that a "controversy" section would only be warranted if it grows in prominence. I do think the topic of why they were picked is appropriate and very interesting. The Treasury's lack of transparency notwithstanding, maybe there are some historians who might know what went into such a decision. Moment in time 22:21, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, being Native American myself, I don't think Andrew Jackson should be on the $20 anymore... I have no idea why, I don't care why... Here are two possible people I think should be on the $20 bill because of their non curruptedness (if that's even a word... bear with me here lol): Fredrick Dougless or Martin Luther King Jr. Those are good ones for the $20 bill for one we will finally have African Americans on US currency. I'm not mentioning having a Native American on a bill because we already have Sakajowia (sp?) On the newest Dollar piece. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.174.141.133 (talk • contribs) 18:21, 14 May 2007

This page is for discussion of changes made to the article about twenty-dollar bills, not about twenty-dollar bills in particular. You might find posting on a web forum or Usenet group more appropriate. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 18:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Flag Reversed on back

Does anyone have any insight as to why the flag has changed directions on the top of the white house in the new series of $20 bills? It is now blowing to the left when it used to blow to the right.

Another insidious lefty plot! Mwah-ha-ha! Brian Schlosser42 16:07, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
No, you're thinking of the flag on the back of the TEN dollar bill. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.248.7 (talk • contribs) 18:49, 2 June 2007
The flag direction has not changed. Neither the $10 bill nor the $20 bill. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 23:20, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lost Elm

Is there any truth the rumor floating around that the current note will be withdrawn and replaced with one without the elm that was toppled earlier this year. it doesn't seem right. after all whats cheaper, replacing a tree or replacing the largest denomination of american back note. i'm from europe so for all i know the tree is already replaced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.70.96 (talk • contribs)

Old U.S. currency is never withdrawn from circulation (except for the $500 bill and higher). A design change like this would be highly unlikely due to the steps and money involved in changing a design. --Kurt 06:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures of older bills

Is it possible to get pictures of older $20 bills on the page? Particularly the pre-1998 "small-head" bill with the opposite side of the White House on the reverse side of the bill?

A few old bills were added recently by me to this page. Anyone have more pictures of old $20 bills to add to this page?? Georgia guy 00:50, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I could scan the back of the Series 1995 bill shown on the page. Other than that all I have are Series 1996 and what's in my wallet :P—Scott5114↗ 14:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling of Cheques

I thought that the word check in it's plural was checks. Maybe I was wrong. Are you sure that its spelled that way? GlassDesk 18:52, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

"Cheque" is the British spelling. Since this article is about a purely U.S. topic, I've reverted to the U.S. spelling, per the Wikipedia Manual of Style. — Mateo SA (talk | contribs) 21:55, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Ah, so it is British. I did not want to change it for fear that it was correct, but now I know. Thanks GlassDesk 02:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 911

if you fold it correctly the 20 bill will look like the twin towers with smoke coming out —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.107.156.98 (talk) 04:46, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but that's just one of those things that gets forwarded around through e-mail. It's not an intentional feature of the bill. Most editors agree it shouldn't be in the article. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 05:57, 20 December 2007 (UTC)