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[edit] Map Colors

Can someone point me to the discussion where it was resolved to change the map/party colors on all the US election pages away from the traditional Red=Democrat/Blue=Republican? I very much object to this change, and am hoping to discuss the matter with the contributors that decided upon this policy of quasi-revisionist history. It is simply unconscionable to me to see FDR is now represented by Blue, that Lake Reagan has disappeared, or that Lincoln now emblazons the Northern states in Red. Particularly since the official source for these maps - the US Government - continues to use the traditional colors. --patton1138 (talk) 17:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Electoral results table

I started to fill in the blanks on this page - for example, the number of "other" voters should be able to be calculated by subtracting each listed candidate's votes from the listed total. Unfortunately, it turns out that the original numbers on this page don't add up properly in the first place. For example, 47,946,000 (Bush's listed total) is 52.3% of 91,591,486 (the listed overall total), not 53.4% (Bush's listed percentage). So, something is wrong, but it's unclear which of those numbers - 47,946,000 or 53.4% or 91,591,486 - is wrong. So, I started investigating on the web, and have found a bunch of pages supposedly listing totals and percentages, none of which seem to agree with each other. Does anyone know of a definitive source? -Rwv37 22:39, May 2, 2004 (UTC)

There seems to be a disagreement between the National Archives and the Dept of Interior "National Atlas" project on the exact numbers on the popular vote. I'm betting one is preliminary results, and one is final results. While one would think the National Archives would be correct, there seems to have been far less care put into those web pages than the National Atlas. Moreover, since the National Atlas has more complete information, I prefer to use the National Atlas numbers. However, this warrents further investigation. -- RobLa 03:20, 4 May 2004 (UTC)

I think there should be more about the primaries in all of these presidential election articles. Does anybody know some of the major endorsements in the party primaries? Pimpalicious 04:25, 7 October 2004 (UTC)

The total is 20 votes off from the sum of the listed votes. The numbers listed for Clinton and Bush are different from the source (Federal Register).

Um, Jack Tanner is listed as a candidate for the 1988 Democratic nomination for president. He wasn't a real person -- he was a fictional character in Robert Altman's miniseries Tanner '88, which was ABOUT a congressman from Michigan running for the Democratic nomination, played by Michael Murphy. I don't know if this was included as a joke, but I really feel that it shouldn't be included lest it confuse some people doing research.

I removed the Tanner reference: Monday, December 13, 2004.

It was a kind of meta meta joke. :)

I liked it too, but, hmm, gotta stick to the facts -- the real ones, anyway. Didn't Tanner get some write in votes, as well?

[edit] Electoral picture peculiarity

Why is the graphic depiction of electoral votes skewed? Rarely nowadays does one see democratic votes colored red and and republican votes blue. --maru (talk) Contribs 20:52, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

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— DLJessup (talk) 21:49, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minor parties

I was just wondering why Kenoyer is mentioned in the list of other candidates running. Ten other tickets received more votes than Kenoyer but are not mentioned: Populist, Consumer, Am. Independent, LaRouche, Right to Life, Workers' League, Socialist Workers, Peace and Freedom, Prohibition, and Workers World. Chronicler3 12:11, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Because there are some Socialists who contribute to Wikipedia and are somewhat biased in the subject of their contributions.
— DLJessup (talk) 14:15, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fulani's 1988 running mates?

This Alaskan page gives Lenora Fulani's running mate as "Burke" http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:_8EMDKy_3IYJ:www.gov.state.ak.us/ltgov/elections/partysta.htm I had thought her running mate was Joyce Dattner. Did she have more than one running mate in 1988, and if so, who were they, and why was there more than one? I found this page: http://www.sfweekly.com/issues/1999-08-11/music4_2.html that says Dattner was one of six VP candidates in 1988; it doesn't name the others. Esquizombi 15:11, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I've moved this information into the main article, along with the cites you give. I used the Internet Archive for the Google cache, which may go away.
— DLJessup (talk) 14:34, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! I was keeping notes on my findings on her running mates here: Talk:Lenora_Fulani#1988_running_mate. Harold Moore is another one. I added some info to New_Alliance_Party#Electoral_politics about the multiple running mates. Odd phenomenon. Still haven't made it to the state library to try to answer this and other questions. Esquizombi 02:34, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] David Duke candidacy

David Duke started the year 1988 as a contender for the Democratic nomination for President. He entered eight primaries: NH, TX, LA, AR, MO, OK, WV, and NJ. He performed best in his home state, where he won half of his 45,000 nationwide votes.

During the primary season, the Populist Party, a collection of right wing state parties remaining from the old George Wallace movement of 1968, endorsed him for President, but he had already been in the Democratic field long before that convention met 3/11-13/1988.

Here is a site with more information: http://www.ourcampaigns.com/CandidateDetail.html?CandidateID=4279 Chronicler3 11:20, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sour Grapes

"Overall, Bush's relatively big win (at least in the electoral college) can be attributed to general satisfaction with the status quo in the country. Peace and prosperity--not any great love for Bush himself--propelled the Republican Party to its third consecutive presidential win. Reagan's popularity and Bush's position as Vice President did more to help his cause than any great dissatisfaction with the "liberal" Dukakis. Bush had essentially no coatails, and he came into office with a Democratic Congress angry and vindictive after all the negative campaign he ran against Dukakis. Even though the Democrats may have lost their presidential bid they were able to strengthen their majorities in Congress."

This sounds like a Democrat's sour grapes to me. While not a Nixon-esque avalanche, Bush's victory was big in both the electoral and popular vote. The rest of the paragraph is POV and appears to be someone's opinion. I will remove this in a few days if no one objects. 198.203.192.166 13:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC) Matt T.

[edit] Tanner '88

I was surprised to see no (minor) mention of Altman and Trudeau's televised campaign for Jack Tanner, which seems noteworthy even if it had little effect on the actual results. Perhaps just a short note at the end, with a cross-reference? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.64.25.3 (talk) 13:33, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] better picture of Dukakis

there's got to be a better picture of Dukakis around, where we can actually see his face. Can someone find one?Tallicfan20 (talk) 16:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)