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Please see Wikipedia:Style for U.S. presidential election, yyyy for standards for all "U.S. presidential election, yyyy" pages. i love george washington I noticed two other users expressed my dismay, and I posted similiar messages to the '64 and '68 election. Whatever ignorant swine thought Ted Kennedy ran for the nomination, There were five candidates I deleted on this because THEY NEVER SOUGHT THE NOMINATION. And if they didn't, they shouldn't be listed as a candidate. Who the hell created this article and put these pictures up? The same shit is going on in the elections of the 50's and the rest of this decade. It makes me furious. Just because someone was a significant senator at the time, or a significant governor, doesn't mean they ran for president. Only put official candidates, and make a catergory specifying "potention candidates who did NOT run". Otherwise, people think these guys are official candidates instead of speculated people who could make a run. There is a huge difference and you are miseducating the American people.

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[edit] Stop adding Non-Candidates

I noticed two other users expressed my dismay, and I posted similiar messages to the '64 and '68 election. Whatever ignorant swine thought Ted Kennedy ran for the nomination, There were five candidates I deleted on this because THEY NEVER SOUGHT THE NOMINATION. And if they didn't, they shouldn't be listed as a candidate. Who the hell created this article and put these pictures up? The same shit is going on in the elections of the 50's and the rest of this decade. It makes me furious. Just because someone was a significant senator at the time, or a significant governor, doesn't mean they ran for president. Only put official candidates, and make a catergory specifying "potention candidates who did NOT run". Otherwise, people think these guys are official candidates instead of speculated people who could make a run. There is a huge difference and you are miseducating the American people.

[edit] Treatment of 'Favorite Son' Candidates

I believe that it is anachronistic for modern editors to list favorite son candidates in the same set as the national candidates (Johnson, Humphrey, McCarthy, Kennedy). Branigan, and Lynch, etc. were not actually seeking the office (they were placeholders for Johnson) and nobody at the time--not event the candidates themselves--would have campaigned or voted in the belief that they might be nominated or elected in their own right. KevinCuddeback (talk) 04:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quick End To Vietnam

Can someone substantiate this? I know it is common to say that Nixon had a 'secret plan' for ending the war, but I found no reference to this in Theodore White's "The Making of the President, 1968," generally considered a standard reference work on the issue.

[edit] Democratic convention violence

The media were more shocked by images of violence outside the Democratic convention than the public was. See Robinson, John, "Public Reaction to Political Protest: Chicago 1968," Public Opinion Quarterly 34 (1970): 1-9.

This area is written with obvious bias. The police were not blameless, but this section of the page lies ALL the blame on the Police. Absolutely, the protesters began and contributed to the violence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tigercap (talk • contribs) 22:41, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nixon's home state

Apparently, this needs to be spelled out, because, for the second consecutive time, I have to revert a well-meaning ignoramus who has "corrected" Nixon's home state during the 1968 election to be California. As is mentioned in Wikipedia's own article on Richard Nixon, after losing the 1962 gubernatorial election in California, Nixon moved to New York City. New York was still his state of residency in 1968, when Nixon won the White House. You don't have to take my word for it: external sources such as Dave Leip's Presidential Atlas or presidentelect.org corroborate that Nixon's home state was New York in 1968.

I changed this, too. Under his picture, I had to change it from saying California to New York. (P.S. He moved back to California for his second presidential term. So, in the 1972 article, it is correct to list his home state as California). Nopm 22:43, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

— DLJessup 20:47, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Electoral picture peculiarity

Why is the graphic depiction of electoral votes skewed? Rarely nowadays does one see democratic votes colored red and and republican votes blue. --maru (talk) Contribs 20:52, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

This post has been copied to Wikipedia talk:Style for U.S. presidential election, yyyy#Electoral picture peculiarity. Please direct your responses there.
— DLJessup (talk) 21:50, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Just for the record and to educate the lazy: the current "Red state, Blue state" scheme is recent going back to just the 1992 election. The official urban legend is that the Republicans got the color red as booty from winning the cold war. Ericl 16:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

What I don't get is how the underline under Nixon's picture is red, but his states are blue, and vice versa for HHH —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tallicfan20 (talk • contribs) 03:08, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thrid Party candidates

Although Dick Gregory received many write-in votes, he appeared on the ballot in five states. Half of his nationwide total came from New York State, where he was the Freedom and Peace Party nominee. He also ran under other party names: Peace & Freedom (PA and VA), New Party (CO), and Peace & Freedom Alternative (NJ).

Frederick W. Halstead of the Socialist Workers Party probably should be mentioned as well, as his 41,390 votes was a record high for that party (to be broken in '72).

Eugene McCarthy appeared on some ballots, receiving 25,552 votes. Chronicler3

[edit] Edward Kennedy Not A Candidate (but did get votes at Convention)

I could find no source which suggested that Edward Kennedy was a "candidate" in 1968. I did add detail to show that he received votes at the convention, but in this sense he was no more a candidate than Bear Bryant. Anyone delegate can vote for anyone. That does not make the vote-getter a candidate. KevinCuddeback (talk) 04:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Republican Primary Campaign

The text for the Republican primary campaign needs to be completely revised. Romney was Nixon's earliest rival but dropped out near the beginning of the primary campaign following his famous "brainwashed" statement. Rockefeller and Reagan entered the race later but were serious contenders; Reagan remained a serious contender all the way to the convention. I will attempt to upgrade the text in the near future. Chronicler3 18:35, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Replace N.... with Black

I am not sure that the use of the n-word to represent predominantly African-American neighbourhoods in the vote breakdown is warranted. This should be reconsidered. 66.102.80.219 18:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

It is a direct quote from a contemporary publication. Cripipper 01:42, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes I agree. I do not think he used that word. It is politically incorrect, that word is.

[edit] Lynch?

In the movie Bobby the results of the California primary are reported in archival footage from CBS News. The results list only last names and percentages: Kennedy first, followed by McCarthy and then by Lynch. Who was Lynch? Awbeal 13:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Attorney General Thomas C. Lynch was the California favorite son candidate originally supporting LBJ. There is a stub biography for him in Wikipedia. See http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,844497,00.html?iid=chix-sphere

--The Four Deuces (talk) 11:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The First Paragraph

Is there anyway to format the page so that the first paragraph isn't crammed in to the margin? It seems very poorly designed and is annoying to read.

[edit] Use of quote marks

From the "Contest for the Democratic nomination" section:

"Some historians, such as Theodore H. White and Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., have argued that Kennedy's broad appeal and famed "charisma" would have convinced the party bosses at the Democratic Convention to give him the nomination."

Why does the word charisma have quote marks around it? Either Kennedy had charisma or he didn't. If he did, then the word doesn't need quote marks. If he didn't, but it is somebody's opinion, then it is a quotation and should be referenced.

WikiReaderer 21:08, 26 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Winner/Runner-Up

I have to voice my concern that this format is hurting the article. I will post this on a few notable election pages and hope that it's noticed. I have to admire the determination of whoever came up with this idea (it's apparently on every page) but ultimately, I think it should go. I think that having "winner/runner-up" displayed so prominently in the infobox overshadows the importance of the election. Some of these elections were not mere contests, but were epic events in American history where a variety of important viewpoints were symbolically represented and voted upon. Just in the last 50 years, the notable political climates of 1968 and 2004 came to a boiling point around election time. We should not be placing so much emphasis on the "winner" and the "runner-up" -- this is not a spelling bee. If we condense this into who "won" we are doing a disservice to the issues that drove these elections. SpiderMMB 23:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Democratic Primaries

There is a sentence saying "only 13 states held a primaries " In my opinion, it should be primaries or a primary but not a mixture... But I'm no native speaker so I thought I'd ask first. 85.178.103.32 (talk) 11:58, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New York Primary?

There's a bit of a contradiction here: "On June 5 Kennedy narrowly defeated McCarthy in California, 46% - 42%. However, McCarthy refused to withdraw from the race and made it clear that he would contest Kennedy in the upcoming New York primary, where McCarthy had much support from antiwar activists in New York City. "

So here we see that New York had a primary. However, its not listed among the states that did have primaries. So did it have a primary or not? Seleucus (talk) 04:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

According to An American Melodrama: The Presidential Campaign of 1968, there was a New York Primary. On page 405 the authors write that "On June 18, the McCarthy forces in New York...won a surprise victory in the state's primary. Out of 123 delegates to Chicago chosen that day, 63 were for McCarthy, against 30 pledged to [the late] Robert Kennedy - and presumably open to negotiation with a peace candidate - 19 uncommitted, and only 11 for Humphrey." I have included McCarthy's victory in New York with his primary victories. User: Populism

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Nytimes1968electionpage.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 14:09, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox resize

I think the infobox on this article (like some other election articles) is way too wide. I would like to suggest a better aspect for the infobox. Here is what I propose is a better size: United States presidential election, 1968/infobox proposal. Thoughts? TheHYPO (talk) 07:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC)