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[edit] was he successful?
It never says in the article that John Quincy Adams won... ugen64 23:43, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)
- It implies it, but there's nothing to say by what mechanism Adams actually became president. Deadlock 16:27, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
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- I think on February 9, 1825, the House of Representatives chose John Quincy Adams, winner of neither the electoral nor popular vote in the 1824 presidential election, as the sixth President of the United States. But I can't confirm the date. Can anyone help, please ? Thanks. -- PFHLai 04:10, 2005 Feb 2 (UTC)
[edit] Derivation of the ticket pairings
According to the National Archives, here's the state-by-state electoral vote in 1824:
| For President: | AL | CT | DE | GA | IL | IN | KY | LA | ME | MD | MA | MS | MO | NH | NJ | NY | NC | OH | PA | RI | SC | TN | VT | VA | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Andrew Jackson, of Tennessee | 5 | - | - | - | 2 | 5 | - | 3 | - | 7 | - | 3 | - | - | 8 | 1 | 15 | - | 28 | - | 11 | 11 | - | - | 99 |
| John Quincy Adams, of Massachusetts | - | 8 | 1 | - | 1 | - | - | 2 | 9 | 3 | 15 | - | - | 8 | - | 26 | - | - | - | 4 | - | - | 7 | - | 84 |
| William H. Crawford, of Georgia | - | - | 2 | 9 | - | - | - | - | - | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | 5 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 24 | 41 |
| Henry Clay, of Kentucky | - | - | - | - | - | - | 14 | - | - | - | - | - | 3 | - | - | 4 | - | 16 | - | - | - | - | - | - | 37 |
| For Vice-President: | AL | CT | DE | GA | IL | IN | KY | LA | ME | MD | MA | MS | MO | NH | NJ | NY | NC | OH | PA | RI | SC | TN | VT | VA | Total |
| John C. Calhoun, of South Carolina | 5 | - | 1 | - | 3 | 5 | 7 | 5 | 9 | 10 | 15 | 3 | - | 7 | 8 | 29 | 15 | - | 28 | 3 | 11 | 11 | 7 | - | 182 |
| Nathan Sanford, of New York | - | - | - | - | - | - | 7 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 7 | - | 16 | - | - | - | - | - | - | 30 |
| Nathaniel Macon, of North Carolina | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 24 | 24 |
| Andrew Jackson, of Tennessee | - | 8 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 1 | - | - | 3 | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 13 |
| Martin Van Buren, of New York | - | - | - | 9 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 9 |
| Henry Clay, of Kentucky | - | - | 2 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 2 |
| Total Electors: | AL | CT | DE | GA | IL | IN | KY | LA | ME | MD | MA | MS | MO | NH | NJ | NY | NC | OH | PA | RI | SC | TN | VT | VA | Total |
| 5 | 8 | 3 | 9 | 3 | 5 | 14 | 5 | 9 | 11 | 15 | 3 | 3 | 8 | 8 | 36 | 15 | 16 | 28 | 4 | 11 | 11 | 7 | 24 | 261 |
Applying the same techniques as were used in Talk:U.S. presidential election, 1796#Derivation of the ticket pairings, this transforms into:
| For President: | DE | MD | NY | Tickets | Total | |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Andrew Jackson, of Tennessee | - | 1 | 1 | 97 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 99 |
| John Quincy Adams, of Massachusetts | 1 | 1 | 7 | - | 65 | 9 | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | 84 |
| William H. Crawford, of Georgia | 1 | 1 | 5 | - | - | - | - | 24 | 9 | 1 | - | - | - | 41 |
| Henry Clay, of Kentucky | - | - | 4 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 7 | 23 | 3 | 37 |
| For Vice-President: | DE | MD | NY | Tickets | Total | |||||||||
| John C. Calhoun, of South Carolina | 1 | 2 | 10 | 97 | 65 | - | - | - | - | - | 7 | - | - | 182 |
| Nathan Sanford, of New York | - | - | 7 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 23 | - | 30 |
| Nathaniel Macon, of North Carolina | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 24 | - | - | - | - | - | 24 |
| Andrew Jackson, of Tennessee | - | 1 | - | - | - | 9 | - | - | - | - | - | - | 3 | 13 |
| Martin Van Buren, of New York | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 9 | - | - | - | - | 9 |
| Henry Clay, of Kentucky | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 1 | - | - | - | 2 |
| Total Electors: | DE | MD | NY | Tickets | Total | |||||||||
| 2 | 3 | 17 | 97 | 65 | 9 | 1 | 24 | 9 | 1 | 7 | 23 | 3 | 261 | |
Now, looking at Maryland, the elector who voted for Jackson for President couldn't have voted for Jackson as Vice President. (The first time somebody voted for the same person for both President and Vice President was the Minnesota “faithless elector” who voted for John Edwards for both President and Vice President in 2004.) Therefore, that elector had to vote for Calhoun, yielding one additional Jackson/Calhoun ticket:
| For President: | DE | MD | NY | Tickets | Total | |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Andrew Jackson, of Tennessee | - | - | 1 | 98 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 99 |
| John Quincy Adams, of Massachusetts | 1 | 1 | 7 | - | 65 | 9 | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | 84 |
| William H. Crawford, of Georgia | 1 | 1 | 5 | - | - | - | - | 24 | 9 | 1 | - | - | - | 41 |
| Henry Clay, of Kentucky | - | - | 4 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 7 | 23 | 3 | 37 |
| For Vice-President: | DE | MD | NY | Tickets | Total | |||||||||
| John C. Calhoun, of South Carolina | 1 | 1 | 10 | 98 | 65 | - | - | - | - | - | 7 | - | - | 182 |
| Nathan Sanford, of New York | - | - | 7 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 23 | - | 30 |
| Nathaniel Macon, of North Carolina | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 24 | - | - | - | - | - | 24 |
| Andrew Jackson, of Tennessee | - | 1 | - | - | - | 9 | - | - | - | - | - | - | 3 | 13 |
| Martin Van Buren, of New York | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 9 | - | - | - | - | 9 |
| Henry Clay, of Kentucky | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 1 | - | - | - | 2 |
| Total Electors: | DE | MD | NY | Tickets | Total | |||||||||
| 2 | 2 | 17 | 98 | 65 | 9 | 1 | 24 | 9 | 1 | 7 | 23 | 3 | 261 | |
